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^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises



 

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if Metroid other M and Zelda Wii don't ignite sales, you will likely see New Metroid and New Zelda being made to see whether 2 D is better for those games as well.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
^I think anywhere, is a great place for 2D games, I would love it if Nintendo would announce a 2D Zelda and Metroid for the Wii

This is something i agree with you on.

2-D games are great... and really do offer better controls then 3D games STILL when done correctly.

When you feel like a fluid expiernce that requires a lot of "twitch" gameplay... 2D is still best.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises

No, they are not, because it makes absolutely no sense. And I already told you why.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises

No, they are not, because it makes absolutely no sense. And I already told you why.

How does it make no sense?  Now that they see that 2D is viab;e on the home consoles, they'll definitely be looking into it, especially if their 3D sales remain stagnant or decline



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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Sure, I'm not saying that you can't make 2d home console games, I just think these new stores are really well suited for 2d games.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises

No, they are not, because it makes absolutely no sense. And I already told you why.

How does it make no sense?  Now that they see that 2D is viab;e on the home consoles, they'll definitely be looking into it, especially if their 3D sales remain stagnant or decline

I already told you. If they were going to give up 3D Mario, which posts spectacular sales, just because they aren't as good as 2D Mario sales, then they would be more likely to give up every single Nintendo franchise that sells lower than 3D Mario, and that includes Zelda. And since they haven't done that yet, they probably never will. There's no logical reason why they would suddenly stop making 3D Mario-games when the lowest-selling one is at 6,28 million. Metroid hasn't even broken 3 million with any of it's games and they keep making games for that series. Zelda's top seller is 7,60 million, that doesn't stop it from being one of their most liked franchises.

Even if New Super Mario Bros. Wii goes on to sell 30 million they won't suddenly drop every other franchise they have. Stop talking nonsense.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises

No, they are not, because it makes absolutely no sense. And I already told you why.

How does it make no sense?  Now that they see that 2D is viab;e on the home consoles, they'll definitely be looking into it, especially if their 3D sales remain stagnant or decline

3D Marios sell really well. Maybe it's not 2D Mario well, but it's still very good. They also help sell consoles. Nintendo has plenty of franchises which sell well bellow 3D Marios and still get support, so dropping 3D Mario in favour of 2D Mario would only make sense if making both was a bad thing. Since they aren't that similar (well, their core is kind like the same, but still very different games) and there's a market for both, there's no reason why they'd drop 3D Marios.



As long as 3D mario or Zelda games turn profit why would they ever stop making them?



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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Before they thought that 2D Mario was dead on consoles, which is why Galaxy 2 was even bothered to be made, in case NSMB Wii flopped, now that NSMB Wii is a huge success much more than Galaxy 2 will ever be, they are going to seriously rethink the future of 3D Mario and probably other 3D franchises

No, they are not, because it makes absolutely no sense. And I already told you why.

How does it make no sense?  Now that they see that 2D is viab;e on the home consoles, they'll definitely be looking into it, especially if their 3D sales remain stagnant or decline

I already told you. If they were going to give up 3D Mario, which posts spectacular sales, just because they aren't as good as 2D Mario sales, then they would be more likely to give up every single Nintendo franchise that sells lower than 3D Mario, and that includes Zelda. And since they haven't done that yet, they probably never will. There's no logical reason why they would suddenly stop making 3D Mario-games when the lowest-selling one is at 6,28 million. Metroid hasn't even broken 3 million with any of it's games and they keep making games for that series. Zelda's top seller is 7,60 million, that doesn't stop it from being one of their most liked franchises.

Even if New Super Mario Bros. Wii goes on to sell 30 million they won't suddenly drop every other franchise they have. Stop talking nonsense.

If they can net more sales with 2D, isn't it better to put out more 2D games?  Here's my point, if every 2D game costs 50% of every 3D games and sells as well or better, then isn't it better to make two 2D games and get the same sales and more profits?  Get rid of 3D Mario, and put out two 2D marios instead, kill 3D zelda and put out 2 2D zeldas and so forth, sure 3D mario might make more sales than 2D metroid, but for the cost of a single 3 D mario, they can put out a 2D Mario and a 2D Metorid, then you've made more money, so then there is little point to a 3D mario, even if it sells more than  2D metroid, since two games makes more profit than the one.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)