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Scoobes said:
shio said:
Scoobes said:

You could say the same for a lot of jRPGs to be fair. Final Fantasy doesn't innovate as such, but if you look through the series there is usually evolution from one game to the next (e.g. the Junction system in VIII compared to the materia system in VII).

The only things that have evolved in the Final Fantasy games are the graphics (which isn't something to be praised), and the combat system. And even then the more recent combat systems are mediocre... they're slow-paced yet give almost no tactical play compared to Baldur's Gate's and Dragon Age's (both of which have faster combats too).

Final fantasy haven't evolved in terms of plot/narrative and RPG mechanics. Even worse, they still use the same animu weeaboo crap in their games.

Well, yes, but you're comparing Western... and Bioware for that matter (the cream of the crop) to jRPGs instead of looking at jRPGs seperately. If you look at jRPGs in general, Final Fantasy is probably one of the few series to even try anything remotely new. Trying to balance the needs of Western gamers to the more increasingly isolated Eastern tastes is proving to be difficult for Japanese devs.

The anime comment is a matter of taste. It's actually partly why I'm looking forward to XIII versus more than XIII, the art style is more to my tastes.

Isn't Final Fantasy and SE supposed to be the cream of the crop?



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twesterm said:
Scoobes said:
shio said:
Scoobes said:

You could say the same for a lot of jRPGs to be fair. Final Fantasy doesn't innovate as such, but if you look through the series there is usually evolution from one game to the next (e.g. the Junction system in VIII compared to the materia system in VII).

The only things that have evolved in the Final Fantasy games are the graphics (which isn't something to be praised), and the combat system. And even then the more recent combat systems are mediocre... they're slow-paced yet give almost no tactical play compared to Baldur's Gate's and Dragon Age's (both of which have faster combats too).

Final fantasy haven't evolved in terms of plot/narrative and RPG mechanics. Even worse, they still use the same animu weeaboo crap in their games.

Well, yes, but you're comparing Western... and Bioware for that matter (the cream of the crop) to jRPGs instead of looking at jRPGs seperately. If you look at jRPGs in general, Final Fantasy is probably one of the few series to even try anything remotely new. Trying to balance the needs of Western gamers to the more increasingly isolated Eastern tastes is proving to be difficult for Japanese devs.

The anime comment is a matter of taste. It's actually partly why I'm looking forward to XIII versus more than XIII, the art style is more to my tastes.

Isn't Final Fantasy and SE supposed to be the cream of the crop?

For jRPGs, yes, but jRPGs haven't exactly been relevant this gen, especially with wRPGs really taking off recently (thanks to Bioware and Bethesda). In the West jRPGs have been slowly becoming a niche genre with the sole exception of Final Fantasy (and possibly Demon's Souls, but even that's niche). This is partly due to brand, but also with the small evolution they add to each iteration. I've played a fair few jRPGs and when I think back I rarely finish them except Final Fantasy.



My friends are all awaiting FFXIII....what consoles do your friends own?



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radiantshadow92 said:

so i am at lunch checking out the box art for FFXIII and all my friends go "why are you looking at that, it sucks"...and im wha???? and they are like "yeah ff should just die already, its the same thing over and over again"....sigh im thinking of getting new friends lol

thankfully my friends all play etrian odessey, Persona, FF and others and they're smart enough to rag on MW and other broski games.



radiantshadow92 said:

so i am at lunch checking out the box art for FFXIII and all my friends go "why are you looking at that, it sucks"...and im wha???? and they are like "yeah ff should just die already, its the same thing over and over again"....sigh im thinking of getting new friends lol

They dont seem that great of friends if they cant appreciate your own personal interest sorry.  If they dont like it fine, but dont need to put it down.  And FF isnt the same thing over and over again, each game is like a new RPG lol



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radiantshadow92 said:

so i am at lunch checking out the box art for FFXIII and all my friends go "why are you looking at that, it sucks"...and im wha???? and they are like "yeah ff should just die already, its the same thing over and over again"....sigh im thinking of getting new friends lol


if they want to ignore one of the most anticipated RPG's of this gen over stupid ass morals then its their loss. enjoy there generic shooters where u do the same shit over and over and gets put back on the shelf in less than a month and is ultimately forgotten. As for me ill be too busy playing one hell of an epic game come march 9 2010 and loving every single second of it. Also i recommend u find some better ppl to hang out with, if they wont respect your interests and tastes, then they have no right to be called a friend.




 

 

                     

SaviorX said:
Typical hardcore casual gamers. Im guessing they just play shooters and sports all day.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks GTA, Call of Duty, Halo, or Madden are hardcore. That's the essence of many casual gamers.



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Hmm, I can't seem to find Soap's posts, but man. Those were some terrible points and were so wrong.


Final Fantasy does change itself with every main entry. They are not afraid to stray from the last game to the next using something completely different.



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I still remember when I was younger and I got FF8, all my friends gave me a bit of hassle, they thought I was weird, but I did not care, got lots of enjoyment out of the game, so stuff what they thought.



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SaviorX said:
Typical "hardcore" gamers. Im guessing they just play shooters and sports all day.

Fix'd.