Does anyone really know the meaning of hardcore gamer?

what? There's nothing more casual than console shooters and sports games.

i wouldnt say shooters and sports games are casual lol...they are VERY competitive here, its just that they hate how ff doesnt have online, or mabye cause they dont get to knife anyone in the back lol

no i was on my phone, it was at lunch and the guy next to me saw it and spread the werd lol

My Girlfriend is a hardcore FF fanatic and she got into and argument with one of my friend's and nearly ripped his head off because he said they suck. It was kinda scary...

While I support as many quality games as square enix can pump out, originality is not something the series has ever really had as a strong point.

You can sumarise pretty much every plot except 12(which is only slightly different) with generic character titles and explain every game.

1) Generic male protagonist has some event which either leaves him stranded or lost or missplaced in some poor or non-adventageous position.

2) Generic male meets or is already a member of some group of support protagonists that undergo some mission to complete some goal to save the world. (IX Parodies final fantasy actually in its beginning, but then gets back on the same plot line)

3)Generic male has something special about him that makes him superior to other people in the world or "special". Generic male meets someone with the same or similar specialness that turns out to be the main protagonist. or already knows him.

4) Evil corporation or organization or group of individuals (usually corp/org) is trying to ruin and oppress the world.

5) Group goes agaisnt them.

6) Drama between one or two female leads ensues.

7) same spells maybe with slightly different names, magic, melee, ranged steriotype class system with a few exceptions (X-2).

8) Showdown with said similar antagonist.

9) Couple of game unique, yet similar super bosses.

10) Some "gimmick" system that is basically a reimplementation of limit breaks from FF7.

11) Have some summons, give them different names in different games and slightly alter the system.

Find a main series game that does not fit at least 8/11 of those points.

10 fits the class one even though it doesnt really have a class system since you can never do anything outside of it.

You could go on all day, but final fantasy is successful because it has a formula that works. If they ever make anything different (like my life as a darklord) it is a massive failure.

Fans know what they want, innovation is not one of them.

Be happy final fantasy doesn't change its structure, if it did you wouldn't like it.

i sort of agree, my friends are totally off, saying they are all the same crap is all wrong, they meant it like they play the same ff with every game, almost like calling it fifa or madden, that is just pathetic, they also think that they come out every year or sumthing lmao

most are my friends are shooter and sport gamers, have only like 2 friends who love RPG's as much as I do, they always say that the games I play are whack...but they still respect me(mostly beacuse I'm 6'4....muhahahaha...then agian I guess those years of friendship count too! lol)

Then again, angry sex is damn good!

FF is popular but it's not very mainstream, im probably the only person out of all my friends that own consoles that will buy it. Nothing wrong with people not being interested in the game, same way as a i couldnt give a damn about CoD