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I think it needs to be playable at E3 for there to be any chance for it to hit in 2010. If it's just a trailer it means we won't be seeing it until after E3 2011.



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puffy said:
Zelda will not hit in 2010, I'm quite sure that Retro Studios new title will be the major core game for the holidays and Zelda would take away from it.

We can all dream though :P

So, come E3 we'll potentially have Arc Rise Fantasia, Metroid: Other M, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Zelda Wii, Epic Mickey, and the new Retro Studios title covered?

Any more? Perhaps Pikmin 3, Tales of Graces, Monado?

...Can it get any better?



Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:

I'm happy for Nintendo and it's fans but this is one Zelda I will not be rooting for. Aonuma is a good producer but he is not the right producer for Zelda. I will remain a fan but I shall not buy one more Zelda game until Miyamoto returns to the franchise.

So you haven't bought a Zelda game since 1998, is what you're saying.

 

I have. I feel its time for Link and the Zelda games to return to their roots. The newer titles (Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess and more recently Spirit Tracks) are nothing more than gimmicks. I want old-school gameplay back in my Zelda games. Miyamoto can deliver this and not Aonuma. He is the anti-Miyamoto.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Dv8thwonder said:
Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:

I'm happy for Nintendo and it's fans but this is one Zelda I will not be rooting for. Aonuma is a good producer but he is not the right producer for Zelda. I will remain a fan but I shall not buy one more Zelda game until Miyamoto returns to the franchise.

So you haven't bought a Zelda game since 1998, is what you're saying.

I have. I feel its time for Link and the Zelda games to return to their roots. The newer titles (Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess and more recently Spirit Tracks) are nothing more than gimmicks. I want old-school gameplay back in my Zelda games. Miyamoto can deliver this and not Aonuma. He is the anti-Miyamoto.

Good Jesus

What possible justification can you have for that?



Well, this'll be my first E3... so I must say that I'm hoping Zelda Wii will show up.

Yep... I really can't wait for this one. *sigh* Too many games, not enough time!



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nordlead said:
based on the information provided above, does anyone have a realistic estimate for how much development time is left? Obviously no one will exactly know, but is it unreasonable to believe that a Holiday 2010 release might happen?

May Allah listen to you!



Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:

I'm happy for Nintendo and it's fans but this is one Zelda I will not be rooting for. Aonuma is a good producer but he is not the right producer for Zelda. I will remain a fan but I shall not buy one more Zelda game until Miyamoto returns to the franchise.

So you haven't bought a Zelda game since 1998, is what you're saying.

I have. I feel its time for Link and the Zelda games to return to their roots. The newer titles (Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess and more recently Spirit Tracks) are nothing more than gimmicks. I want old-school gameplay back in my Zelda games. Miyamoto can deliver this and not Aonuma. He is the anti-Miyamoto.

Good Jesus

What possible justification can you have for that?

 

I will not buy another Zelda game until Aonuma steps down from the series. No more gimmicks please! Miyamoto be praised!



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Dv8thwonder said:
Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:

I have. I feel its time for Link and the Zelda games to return to their roots. The newer titles (Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess and more recently Spirit Tracks) are nothing more than gimmicks. I want old-school gameplay back in my Zelda games. Miyamoto can deliver this and not Aonuma. He is the anti-Miyamoto.

Good Jesus

What possible justification can you have for that?

I will not buy another Zelda game until Aonuma steps down from the series. No more gimmicks please! Miyamoto be praised!

I.... think I get it now

Good show



Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Khuutra said:
Dv8thwonder said:

I have. I feel its time for Link and the Zelda games to return to their roots. The newer titles (Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess and more recently Spirit Tracks) are nothing more than gimmicks. I want old-school gameplay back in my Zelda games. Miyamoto can deliver this and not Aonuma. He is the anti-Miyamoto.

Good Jesus

What possible justification can you have for that?

I will not buy another Zelda game until Aonuma steps down from the series. No more gimmicks please! Miyamoto be praised!

I.... think I get it now

Good show

 

I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone into believing what I say is true but ever since Aonuma took the reigns of the franchise gameplay quality has been in considerable decline and so have sales. Twilight Princess' sales in Japan are a clear sign of this. I'm sure the masses will be happy to see a Zelda Wii but I'm afraid of the gameplay more than anything. I think Nintendo will show off the game to some extent at E3 but only to gauge peoples responses and it garners enough positive feedback than Nintendo might release it within that year or early 2011. But if it's not then this gives Miyamoto the chance to "upend the tea table" and that delay the game until late Q4 2011. I think I want this Zelda to fail so Miyamoto can take hold of the franchise once more and correct the mistakes of Aonuma, if not all is lost from my POV. I can tell you this that Zelda Wii is going to be one expensive game for Nintendo to make. There in 'hardcore' territory on this one. You might see it as upgraded launch title for the 'New Wii'.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans


Dv8thwonder said:

I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone into believing what I say is true but ever since Aonuma took the reigns of the franchise gameplay quality has been in considerable decline and so have sales. Twilight Princess' sales in Japan are a clear sign of this. I'm sure the masses will be happy to see a Zelda Wii but I'm afraid of the gameplay more than anything. I think Nintendo will show off the game to some extent at E3 but only to gauge peoples responses and it garners enough positive feedback than Nintendo might release it within that year or early 2011. But if it's not then this gives Miyamoto the chance to "upend the tea table" and that delay the game until late Q4 2011. I think I want this Zelda to fail so Miyamoto can take hold of the franchise once more and correct the mistakes of Aonuma, if not all is lost from my POV. I can tell you this that Zelda Wii is going to be one expensive game for Nintendo to make. There in 'hardcore' territory on this one. You might see it as upgraded launch title for the 'New Wii'.

Back to not being sure I get it.

Zelda's sales haven't been in decline - the general trend has actually been upward. Ocarina of Time was a momentary spike, like the original was and like Twilight Princess was, and Miyamoto wasn't actually the primary gameplay designer in that game - he came up with some important concepts, yes, but the primary 3-D design (including dungeon design and scenario design) was ofen in Aonuma's lap even in that game. To clarify again: Aonuma was the guy who made OoT's dungeons work as well as they did.

To get into sales more deeply, you'll notice that the sales of the series spike about every ten years or so - the first game was enormous, made the next three look bad in comparison (until Link's Awakening's re-release with the DX version), then Ocarina cause another spike tha made Majora and Wind Waker look small in comparison (even though Wind Waker was roughly the same size as Link to the Past), and Twilight Princess, with both versions combined, is actually as big as the original, and is clawing its way slowly toward the same numbers as the original release of Ocarina of Time. Consumer feedback, in general, has been constant rather than declining. Don't forget that Majora's Mask was the only game in the series that required something like the RAM pack (and did not come packaged with it, as I remember), necessarily limiting thee number of people that it could sell to. Lower sales are not indicative of a lower consumer appeal in that case because of the barrier to entry in playing it.

I don't really understand what your problem with Aonuma or his games is. You've yet to cite a way in which the series has weakened under his direction.