good lord... finally some one else who sees logic in all the insanity... God of War isn't a huge game... it did decent numbers for a console that had over 100 million units.

piracy took sales away. so did releasing 2 games on the ps2 when all current console were out

LMAO at the people saying "naughty dog said they would be happy with 2.5 million sold"

Have you ever heard of public relations? What else are they gonna say?

The ps3 install base has grown by about 10 million since UC1 released, the game is being advertised like crazy, it got OUTSTANDING REVIEWS and it has TONS of media hype.

Be reasonable, sales of this game so far have been extremely disappointing. Deep down in their hearts, every sony fan/employee knows it

PIRACY HUH???

XBOX 360 is pirated yet it has the most software sales and the highest attach rate in console history.

Could have performed better, but it's doing fine, and it'll keep selling for a long time.

Financially it's probably a dissapointment. The development costs and the big marketing were huge for this game.

Boneyboy does have a point. The game had everthing going for it. It did good, not great.

I guess this proves again that reviews don't affect sales too much.

I don't think the sales are disappointing considering other games on the PS3.

It has sold just short of 2m WW in 8 weeks which is brilliant IMHO.

Yes of course it would have been super great if it had sold 3m or even 4m within the same time period, but it's just not that sort of game like a MW or other generic shooter that clocks up huge sales especially in the US.

The first Uncharted probably took around a year to break the 2m barrier and the second installment is doing it in less than 2 months.

Of course a game of this caliber should expect much better sales, but unfortunately it's just not going to happen...even if the PS3 had a 50m user base by the time U2 came out, it still wouldn't sell 7-8m copies lifetime.

Although, all things said, I reckon it should be pushing closer to 2.5m by the new year and should steadily bring in sales over the next year or so until the 3rd installment appears...it should still be able to get between 3-4m lifetime.

You can't change the market, and I do believe ND when they quote 2.5 Million WW because that is actually a sensible estimate to aim for unless you're just being unrealistic.

To sell more in the US this title would need higher PS3 penetration in the US, it's as simple as that, particularly with the demographic that currently favours 360 (which is of course the problem, a large chunk of the idea audience for this game in the US are already on another platform).

WW the PS3 install base might have grown 10M, but that's not the point: the US install base hasn't grown that much, and that's where the sales were weakest on a region per region basis and the focus of the NPD and Patcher.

As I said, no matter how good the reviews, etc. how many US 360 owners were seriosuly going to invest in this game (and a PS3)?  Because it's clear from historic sales of comparable titles that the US PS3 install base and demographic isn't strong enough to deliver more sales than the game has seen in the region.

To reverse the scenario, look at sales of jRPGs on 360 in Japan where 360 simply doesn't have the install base vs PS3 for relatively weak titles - same problem, in fact worse for 360 as the ratio is even more against them there.

Uncharted 2 sales in US are technically dissappointing, but only in relation to 'what if' the market was different.  In terms of the market that is there for PS3 they are actually high.

Of course you can say it's dissappointing, but you're evaluating against results that simply can't be achieved in the current market.

...what?

http://kotaku.com/5224724/tomb-raider-lifetime-sales-show-off-lara-crofts-biggest-hits

I am getting confused at what were you trying to debate with steverhcp02.

You predicted 2.5 million at best ( any more than that will make prediction wrong already) and the people that predicted it 3 million at the least so let's say uncharted sells 2.6 or 2.7 both of you are wrong already. No one wins period. If ever uncharted 2 sell 3 million they were right and you were wrong so no matter how you keep saying about "mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula is vital in this situation". You can argue all you want but the fact still remains that they were right on there prediction because they predicted it to sell AT LEAST 3 million unlike you that only predicted 2.5 million at max.

Since you also brought up fairness and equality. It really feels that in order for them to be right with there prediction it has to sell 3.5 in order for you to accept that they are right isn't that unfair to them?

And also how can it be unfair when you never set a condition to begin with that they should only use 500k range? How can it be unfair when you are free to choose whatever range you like? Just like you chose the 500k range on your own free will. It just means that you are confident that it will only sell like that because you are free to use 1 million range too but you didn't so it's your fault not theirs.

P.S.
If ever I misunderstood what you are trying to say, enlighten me because because just like I said I am really confuse what were you trying to debate with steverhcp02.