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darthdevidem01 on 14 December 2009
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
 

This is the first ive heard of two prediction sets in this thread.

Youre really bad at debating, you keep changing the variables to help your case.

The people that said 3.5-4 will be right if it reaches that range. The people that said 3-3.5 will be right if it reaches that range youll be right if it stays between 2-2.5

How on earth youve been able to justify in your own thoughts and actually argue that you prediction of 2-2.5 can be right if it sells 3 million is beyond my comprehension level.

Thats because you haven't quite grasped the fundamentals of this argument.

We have 2 ranges so we must have a mutually symbiotic average in order to make sure it is fair all accross the board, several variable & researches have been used to come to the averages we came too

Now kantor claims 3.5 - 4 Million is your range so we can take that as your sides range now.

It will need to sell over 3 Million to satisfy the opposing side & lead to their victory.

haha, right i dont grasp the fundamentals, okay.

Predictions are independant regardless, if you think it will sell 2-2.5 and it sells less or more youre wrong. If they say 3-4 and it sells less or more theyre wrong. You can be right or they can be right, it doesnt matter about the range because its YOUR prediction and THEIR prediction.

Kantor is just changing it to favor this debacle of logic youre using to shut you up, i believe.

YOu still do not understand the points, elements & variables involved here.

Predictions are independant however when we form a range & average it we must have a mutually beneficial symbiotic conclusion by which both sides have enough control, this matter is crucial in the future, I suggest you google it up.

finally don't use words like "shut you up" as people have been banned for that on VGChartz, so edit it, I'm not reporting you but someone else might and I don't want to see you banned.

We make predictions on what we think. Range isnt a common factor. By giving a range you are simply saying you feel it will sell more than the min and less than the max, the amount doesnt matter when the ranges do not cross, thats what i dont think you understand. Im not googling whatever term you just learned in school to apply to this because its irrelavent to the situation.

Either your prediction is in line and youre right or it sells between 2.5-3 million and no ones right or it sells between 3-4 million and the other group is right.

1. That term is relevant to this situation to ensure fairness, justice & statistical significance accross the board.

2. The other range is now 3.5 - 4 Million according to the primary leader of the other faction, kantor.

Range isn't a common factor and I don't usually use range, however in this rare situation we find ourselves in range has been used as a sword and a shield, to act as a mediator between the two we must use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula.



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steverhcp02 on 14 December 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:

We make predictions on what we think. Range isnt a common factor. By giving a range you are simply saying you feel it will sell more than the min and less than the max, the amount doesnt matter when the ranges do not cross, thats what i dont think you understand. Im not googling whatever term you just learned in school to apply to this because its irrelavent to the situation.

Either your prediction is in line and youre right or it sells between 2.5-3 million and no ones right or it sells between 3-4 million and the other group is right.

1. That term is relevant to this situation to ensure fairness, justice & statistical significance accross the board.

2. The other range is now 3.5 - 4 Million according to the primary leader of the other faction, kantor.

Range isn't a common facotor and I don't usually use range, however in this rare situation we find ourselves in range has been used as a sword and a shield, to act as a mediator between the two we must use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula.

no we must not, because even if their range is greater it doesnt change your prediction. No one made you use a 500k range but you did. Its independant, there is no closeness, either you are right or wrong. There is no objective prediction range, its our own thoughts. Your thought will probably end up being wrong, regardless of their range. Thats all that matters when we make predictions. Since its what we think, others can be right or wrong independantly. You will most liekly be wrong with your prediction, youre just trying to come to terms with UC2 selling better than you thought so youre piggybacking other predictions :)




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BHR-3 on 14 December 2009

im losing my mind im away from the site for 1hr and yet again darths thread explodes which wasnt a real good thread imo and we are debating things that shouldnt be debated

why is there any debating that vgc over tracked it vgc has U2 .94m NPD says 650k r u guys saying that its not possible for the rest of americas not america to have sold another 290k? also NPD doesnt even include 1st week of Dec for that 650k

like i said if anything its under tracked by vgc 290k for the rest of americas really? im going to have to take a trip to canada, mexico, SA, and where ever else to see wats up

also darth u think U2 will be closer to ur prediction of 2-2.5m its going to hit 2.5m b4 the years up BABY its easily going to sell another 1-1.5 for the rest of the gen man or at leat 501k which would make it closer for the rest of us



                                                             

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steverhcp02 on 14 December 2009
BHR-3 said:
im losing my mind im away from the site for 1hr and yet again darths thread explodes which wasnt a real good thread imo and we are debating things that shouldnt be debated

why is there any debating that vgc over tracked it vgc has U2 .94m NPD says 650k r u guys saying that its not possible for the rest of americas not america to have sold another 290k? also NPD doesnt even include 1st week of Dec for that 650k

like i said if anything its under tracked by vgc 290k for the rest of americas really? im going to have to take a trip to canada, mexico, SA, and where ever else to see wats up

also darth u think U2 will be closer to ur prediction of 2-2.5m its going to hit 2.5m b4 the years up BABY its easily going to sell another 1-1.5 for the rest of the gen man or at leat 501k which would make it closer for the rest of us

the prophet has spoken. *kneels*




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darthdevidem01 on 14 December 2009
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
 

We make predictions on what we think. Range isnt a common factor. By giving a range you are simply saying you feel it will sell more than the min and less than the max, the amount doesnt matter when the ranges do not cross, thats what i dont think you understand. Im not googling whatever term you just learned in school to apply to this because its irrelavent to the situation.

Either your prediction is in line and youre right or it sells between 2.5-3 million and no ones right or it sells between 3-4 million and the other group is right.

1. That term is relevant to this situation to ensure fairness, justice & statistical significance accross the board.

2. The other range is now 3.5 - 4 Million according to the primary leader of the other faction, kantor.

Range isn't a common facotor and I don't usually use range, however in this rare situation we find ourselves in range has been used as a sword and a shield, to act as a mediator between the two we must use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula.

no we must not, because even if their range is greater it doesnt change your prediction. No one made you use a 500k range but you did. Its independant, there is no closeness, either you are right or wrong. There is no objective prediction range, its our own thoughts. Your thought will probably end up being wrong, regardless of their range. Thats all that matters when we make predictions. Since its what we think, others can be right or wrong independantly. You will most liekly be wrong with your prediction, youre just trying to come to terms with UC2 selling better than you thought so youre piggybacking other predictions :)

No, we must. Ranges are designed and created independantly, the other range was never stated by the opposing faction, until kantor said its 3.5 - 4 Million. But lets assume its still 3 - 4 Million. We are comparing predictions, we need to find a tipping point here and combine seperate variables that may lead to this study being unreliable & possibly unfair. In order to do this we have to unquestionably use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula, its the fundamentals of this comparison. Coming to terms with a wrong prediction involves making another thread saying I was wrong and seein it grasp the 100 post mark, that is the fundamental principle in coming to terms with such a prediction not on the other hand piggybacking which is irrelevant towards this rare position we find ourselves in.



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steverhcp02 on 14 December 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
 

We make predictions on what we think. Range isnt a common factor. By giving a range you are simply saying you feel it will sell more than the min and less than the max, the amount doesnt matter when the ranges do not cross, thats what i dont think you understand. Im not googling whatever term you just learned in school to apply to this because its irrelavent to the situation.

Either your prediction is in line and youre right or it sells between 2.5-3 million and no ones right or it sells between 3-4 million and the other group is right.

1. That term is relevant to this situation to ensure fairness, justice & statistical significance accross the board.

2. The other range is now 3.5 - 4 Million according to the primary leader of the other faction, kantor.

Range isn't a common facotor and I don't usually use range, however in this rare situation we find ourselves in range has been used as a sword and a shield, to act as a mediator between the two we must use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula.

no we must not, because even if their range is greater it doesnt change your prediction. No one made you use a 500k range but you did. Its independant, there is no closeness, either you are right or wrong. There is no objective prediction range, its our own thoughts. Your thought will probably end up being wrong, regardless of their range. Thats all that matters when we make predictions. Since its what we think, others can be right or wrong independantly. You will most liekly be wrong with your prediction, youre just trying to come to terms with UC2 selling better than you thought so youre piggybacking other predictions :)

No, we must. Ranges are designed and created independantly, the other range was never stated by the opposing faction, until kantor said its 3.5 - 4 Million. But lets assume its still 3 - 4 Million. We are comparing predictions, we need to find a tipping point here and combine seperate variables that may lead to this study being unreliable & possibly unfair. In order to do this we have to unquestionably use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula, its the fundamentals of this comparison. Coming to terms with a wrong prediction involves making another thread saying I was wrong and seein it grasp the 100 post mark, that is the fundamental principle in coming to terms with such a prediction not on the other hand piggybacking which is irrelevant towards this rare position we find ourselves in.

youve seriously got to stop with this thing.

Either your prediction is right or its not. Other peoples dont matter.




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darthdevidem01 on 14 December 2009
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:
 

We make predictions on what we think. Range isnt a common factor. By giving a range you are simply saying you feel it will sell more than the min and less than the max, the amount doesnt matter when the ranges do not cross, thats what i dont think you understand. Im not googling whatever term you just learned in school to apply to this because its irrelavent to the situation.

Either your prediction is in line and youre right or it sells between 2.5-3 million and no ones right or it sells between 3-4 million and the other group is right.

1. That term is relevant to this situation to ensure fairness, justice & statistical significance accross the board.

2. The other range is now 3.5 - 4 Million according to the primary leader of the other faction, kantor.

Range isn't a common facotor and I don't usually use range, however in this rare situation we find ourselves in range has been used as a sword and a shield, to act as a mediator between the two we must use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula.

no we must not, because even if their range is greater it doesnt change your prediction. No one made you use a 500k range but you did. Its independant, there is no closeness, either you are right or wrong. There is no objective prediction range, its our own thoughts. Your thought will probably end up being wrong, regardless of their range. Thats all that matters when we make predictions. Since its what we think, others can be right or wrong independantly. You will most liekly be wrong with your prediction, youre just trying to come to terms with UC2 selling better than you thought so youre piggybacking other predictions :)

No, we must. Ranges are designed and created independantly, the other range was never stated by the opposing faction, until kantor said its 3.5 - 4 Million. But lets assume its still 3 - 4 Million. We are comparing predictions, we need to find a tipping point here and combine seperate variables that may lead to this study being unreliable & possibly unfair. In order to do this we have to unquestionably use the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula, its the fundamentals of this comparison. Coming to terms with a wrong prediction involves making another thread saying I was wrong and seein it grasp the 100 post mark, that is the fundamental principle in coming to terms with such a prediction not on the other hand piggybacking which is irrelevant towards this rare position we find ourselves in.

youve seriously got to stop with this thing.

Either your prediction is right or its not. Other peoples dont matter.

I must involve it where it is a necessity. We were comparing prediction ranges, the mutually beneficialy symbiotic range calculation formula is vital in this situation, it helps both factions and lends credibility to the comparison.



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Hus on 14 December 2009

Patchers info is old and hes using it to bolster his claim.

Falling for such bs spin, rookies.



patapon on 14 December 2009

QUICK, SOMEBODY POST!!! EGOS ARE AT STAKE!!!



wholikeswood on 14 December 2009

"the mutually beneficially symbiotic range calculation formula"

Come again?

This sounds like medicine school speak to me and I don't understand why we have to overcomplicate this discussion.

In all honesty, I don't even think UC2 is overtracked.

NPD says 650k by November's end. VGC says 880k by November's end. 230k can more or less be accounted for by Canada and Mexico, no?

This thread is becoming a headache now, regardless.