jarrod said: Soriku said: jarrod said: NPD has Valkyria ltd at 130k as of the end of Nov 2009. lol. Had a feeling it was heavily overtracked. Selling 40k+ a long time after release is a bit much, good word of mouth or not. It isn't the most mainstream game... ToV and ToS: DotNW are tied with it at 130k in US btw. I wish we had another console RPG leak, I'd like to see where Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Last Remnant and Star Ocean are all at.  Fire Emblem Wii's at 170k btw.

I choose to believe that VGC and NPD are on opposite ends of the margin of error for Radiant Dawn

Soriku said: I just asked for you on GAF, let's hope I get an answer. I'd like to see where those stand too though.

Yay!  Lets hope Ani's feeling generous...

I do not think VGchartz is overtracking VC by a large margin..... word of mouth does alot, frequent appearances in gaming periodicals online and off about the game, and its DLC help, the anime which was fansubbed and had a decent fansub audience in the west helps, these factors plus a quickly growing PS3 install base really helps....

Now combine it with price cuts and frequent deals. The fact that game has been buyable at a 30$ price point for a long time combined with continued publicity should indicate that sales numbers have every reason to remain high. Ofc Sega is making less money per copy, but the actual numbers of units moved has every reason to be high.

One has to wonder what the attach rate of the DLC is. I cannot even begin to guestimate. But IMO the DLC is the most important X-factor as far as whether or not Sega continues the series, and/or engine/gametype. If we see a VC3 or another risky RPG from Sega by the WOW team on PS3, it probably wont be because VC2 sold awesomely well on PSP (which it wont, just because its PSP) but rather because quality games that are different but have hardcore fanbases are proving to be profitable long term via DLC channels, enough so to offset a slow sales curve.

"If it's a fight you want, you got it!"

I think both will fall short.

numbers updated VC is only 80k away from LO

Neoraf said: perpride said: The north American cover of lost oddyssey is soooo sick I'm surprised the Japanese one is so ugly. I think Lost Odyssey will finish on top. But putting sales aside, valkyria does not even come close to lost odyssey in terms of quality. Exactly. Lost Odyssey = Best JRPG this gen so far (this may change with FFXIII, or maybe not) Sakaguchi's vision, Uematsu's music, The thousand years dreams... It was an awesome (and moving) experience.

First off that was Uematsu's worst work since Rad Racer. I would dare say that Ar Tonelico 2's composer rivals Nobuo's best work. Second LO is just another JRPG in the bunch that 360 fans get super excited about since the original xbox was lacking on those. VC is superior quality and even dared to be different (and successful given a smaller install base). The thousand year dream in LO was the only interesting concept. 

Cueil said: LO probably had one of the best stories hidden in it... nothing I've seen from a JRPG even comes close to touching the dream sequences... they were masterfully done peices

The dives in the Ar Tonelico series easily rival it. Sadly those games were plagued by poor localization by NIS at the time. As for stories, Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile 1 and 2, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve 1, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross easily surpass it. All LO did was provide the Xbox fans with a JRPG that is finally worth mentioning on that system. Hell even Shadow Hearts: Covenant had a better story.

Neoraf said: You got it wrong Carl.... Gamers who loved old Final Fantasy games agree. Who cares about western reviews for a japanese game? If Lost Odyssey was PS3 exclusive, I CAN ASSURE YOU it would be praised as the "game you should buy a PS3 for". Playstation fans (who loved PS1 and PS2 JRPGs) waited so long for a game like this this gen... (Soon FF13). In 2007, if Lost Odyssey was released on PS3, it would have been called "Game of the Year" by the long-time playstation JRPG userbase... Sadly for them, it was released on the 360. So instead of buying a 360 and expand their game collection... they prefered to downgrade the game on forums and stuff... Bitter behavior. Sad but true. Brand loyalty creates injustice.

I didn't play Lost Odyssey but I guess you are right.

Lost odyssey not comparing to FF? when I played I couldn't stop thinking how much it reminded me of FF. Ultra- beautifull graphic, music from nobuo that was high top, an emotional story that was at a level of an FF game. if they released lost odyssey as FFXII and include some summons/chocobo's and Moogles I don't see why people couldn't compare it to an FF game.