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huaxiong90 on 12 December 2009
LordMatrix said:
gamelover2000 said:
japanese devs dont really support the Xbox 360 so it gets little attention over there.. nationalism plays a huge role to

Actually japanese developers are supportign the X360 quite nicely. It's the japanese consumers that are hardly supportign it. It's a crime I say!

AS for OP NA has a huge number of X360 fans. A lot more in fact than the PS3 does. The reason it might seem like there might be more for PS3 is simply because Sony fanboys like to act liek that annoying neighbor you have down the street that always swears up and down they are right and you are wrong and you keep wishing you could just get rid of them because their nothing but a nuisance.

All fanboys are like that.



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Strategyking92 on 12 December 2009

i theenk thtat the microsoft box console does not make the sell because it is not of the japanese.
also probably the past of the xbox onee has to be the deciding of it as well.
a the "xenophobia" has the to be happen a little as going also.
O wells the situation may to be never fix in japan for microsofts.



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Destroyer_of_knights on 12 December 2009

There jaded fucks, but having said that I love their woman XD



supercat on 12 December 2009

B/c the PS3 has blu-ray so it doesnt need 2-3 discs. The PS3 is intended to be a worldwide console, not just a console that primarily serves the biggest and fattest market (USA).



nofingershaha on 12 December 2009
arsenicazure said:
To suggest that the rest of the world should be thankful for american over-consumerism is ridiculous. I guess we should thank them for climate change, high oil prices, the current recession and wars in the middle east too then.

i never said that we should be thankful for that. over consumerism is what got us all in these situations in the first place and is a horribly unhealthy habit. but the world's economy has become so integrated with one another that many countries depend on other nations to buy their goods to support themselves.



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shinyuhadouken on 12 December 2009

the japs are a bunch of fruits..that's my honest opinion.



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LeongJinx on 12 December 2009

Anyone who says it's xenophobia is wrong. I know people fron Japan, and Microsoft has botched the Xbox and 360 over there. Know how American PS3 owners complain about how Japan PSN has so much more? Think of that, except 100 times worse, then flip Japan and US. Microsoft has always had a weak support of Live over in Japan. The original Xbox especially was terribly marketed, and treated as a losing cause in Japan from day one by Microsoft. Because of that, people were not trusting in the 360 turning things around. That's why it struggles in Japan.



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loves2splooge on 12 December 2009

As someone mentioned here, the home console market has shrunk considerably in Japan. And when the home console market is so small these days, it's going to be difficult to convince the Japanese gamer to buy more than one console, let alone all 3 home consoles. So while the Xbox 360 has boatloads of Japanese software, they're gonna go with Sony and/or Nintendo anyway because Sony and Nintendo have more and they have more recognizable IPs. The home console market in the west however is the biggest it has ever been. It's because of these reasons why it's usually only the hardcore gamers that are buying 360s in Japan.

I don't blame the Japanese for passing up on the 360 because they'd rather get a PS3 to play Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, MGS and Hot Shots Golf (yes it's big over there). When you have to compete with major IPs like that, it's hard. But look at how quickly Japan dropped Nintendo for Sony and Sega two generations ago! Nothing is impossible. Nintendo' IPs are absolutely massive and yet the Japanese STILL abandoned them for two generations straight (on home consoles). Just like how no one ever saw Apple overtaking Walkman in Japan coming. These strokes of genius (or just plain luck) happen time to time.

M$ has done a really good job but they aren't doing enough. Sure they are marketing but I don't think their marketing budget over there is really all that big. And M$ should put more effort into investing in new first-party Japanese IPs (as well as Japanese IPs they already own like Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon) instead of moneyhatting third-party devs to make games for their console. How do you think the Sega Saturn became so popular in Japan? By moneyhatting third-party devs? No. Sega relied heavily on first-party stuff to make the Sega Saturn popular in Japan. The Sega Genesis in Japan was less popular than the Xbox 360 btw. If Sega can improve their fortunes in Japan (the Saturn even managed to beat the Sony Playstation in 1995 over there), I think M$ can improve in the future. Apple beat Sony, Microsoft owns the OS market there. It's already an achievement for M$ to obtain 8.5% of the Japanese current gen home console hardware market and 10.6% of the Japanese current gen home console software market. 8.5% of current gen home consoles and 10.6% of current gen home console software is no joke. I bet you Mac doesn't even have that much market share in the OS market. Or if they do, not much more. M$ should be happy with their performance in Japan and not give up on the market. Next gen, M$ can improve their results even more.



S.T.A.G.E. on 13 December 2009
xbebop said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
nofingershaha said:
The real problem isn't racism, bias, or even the RROD, but commitment to their market on Microsoft's part.

Remember when Sega pulled the plug on the Saturn because it was doing poorly in the West, Saturn games and consoles were still being sold in Japan. When Sega decided to become a software company and abandoned the Dreamcast, they still supported the Dreamcast in Japan long after the console cycle ended everywhere else.

My point is Japan is not Microsoft's territory and if their gaming division in Japan fails to bring in revenue, then Microsoft can easily withdraw from that market. For Nintendo and Sony, Japan is the last market they will abandon. Japan is where their main location is at and that gives Japanese consumers some insurance that the console they invest in will continue to be around for some time.

We all can agree that if we knew Sega was only going to support the Dreamcast for a couple of years, no one would have invested in that console. It is the same with Japanese gamers, they do not know if Microsoft is committed to their market enough.


The Japanese couldn't care less if Microsoft was to sacrifice itself. Japan is a socialistic nation whilst America is individualistic. They are for each other and we are for ourselves. They will support their companies and help them grow so they then provide them with quality giving back to community. America downsizes their companies and outsources to Asia so they wont have to pay workers as much and raise profit margins. America is the polar opposite of Japan....we promote competition and open-mindedness which is why we fail with the rest of the world. At some point Europeans buy their goods to support their economy, Japanese buy their goods religiously and America buys from everyone. If you've got something of value we want it. The average Europeans consumption rate per capita is nowhere near to us. We need to start being a little nationalistic so quality can come back to America.

If Americans were to, say, halve their consumption per capita, the world's economy would collapse. Asia economy and North America's economy rely enormously on each other. Asia, to sell their cheap goods, America to buy them. Europeans, as you said, do not buy foreign goods at the pace that Americans do, so they could not make up the difference on their own. American companies depend on people buying their cheap outsourced goods, so this would not turn out well...

The point is: Americans need to spend like crazy to support the world economy.

Europeans do spend quite a bit even though it isn't as much as Americans per capita. They just spare the money for travel time.



S.T.A.G.E. on 13 December 2009
arsenicazure said:
To suggest that the rest of the world should be thankful for american over-consumerism is ridiculous. I guess we should thank them for climate change, high oil prices, the current recession and wars in the middle east too then.

Asia and Europe contribute to global warming as well in a major way. The more industrialized those nations get the worse the CO2 emissions will get. High oil prices are not just an American problem but an Asian problem as well. The American people are not to blame for the recession. Blame the banks and the community reinvestment act for causing subprime levels to go through the roof. America is not alone in the worlds problems.