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ESRB Clears Rockstar/T2 in Manhunt 2 Hack Investigation

November 2nd, 2007

The following statement was read by ESRB president Patricia Vance (left) during a conference call which wrapped up moments ago:

Earlier this week we learned about a hack into the code of the PSP and PS2 versions of the game that removes special effects filters that were put in place to obscure certain violent depictions.  We have investigated the matter and concluded that unauthorized versions of the game have been released on the Internet along with instructions on how to modify the code to remove the special effects. 

Once numerous changes to the game’s code have been made and other unauthorized software programs have been downloaded to the hardware device which circumvent security controls that prevent unauthorized games from being played on that hardware, a player can view unobscured versions of certain violent acts in the game.  Contrary to some reports, however, we do not believe these modifications fully restore the product to the version that originally received an AO rating, nor is this a matter of unlocking content. 

Our investigation indicates that the game’s publisher disclosed to the ESRB all pertinent content in the authorized Mature-rated version of Manhunt 2 now available in stores, and complied with our guidelines on full disclosure of content. 

What parents, and indeed all consumers, need to be aware of is that computer software and hardware devices are susceptible to unauthorized modification.  Parents should be cognizant of whether or not their children are engaging in unauthorized modification of their games, consoles or handhelds, as those modifications can change game content in ways that may be inconsistent with the assigned ESRB rating. That being said, the vast majority of consumers have not made the unauthorized modifications to their hardware necessary to view the content at issue. 

A follow-up press release contains these quotes, attributed to Vance:

Manhunt 2’s rating makes it unmistakable that the game is intended for an older audience.  The unauthorized hacking into the code of this game doesn’t change that basic fact.

Parents need to be vigilant about monitoring what their children are downloading on the Internet and ensure that they are not making unauthorized and oftentimes illegal modifications to software and hardware that remove the controls the industry has so diligently put in place for their own protection.

There is also an ESRB-authored Q&A attached to the press release:

Q. How is this situation different from the “Hot Coffee” incident?

A. The Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas “Hot Coffee” situation involved a scene that was a) fully rendered in an unmodified form on the disc (the Hot Coffee mod did not alter the content that was there, it merely unlocked it), b) not previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process, and c) easily accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game.  Conversely, in the case of Manhunt 2, a) content that was programmed to be part of the game (i.e., visual blurring effects of certain violent depictions) is being modified, b) the content was previously disclosed to the ESRB, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.  

Q. How is this situation different from the one with “The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?”

A. After the release of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the ESRB discovered extensive amounts of fully rendered and previously undisclosed blood and gore in the game that warranted a Mature rating.  In addition, there was a fully rendered anatomically detailed art file of a topless female character present on the disc that had not been previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process.  The blood and gore was accessible to all owners of the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game.  The partial nudity was accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game if they downloaded a modification available on the Internet that replaced one version of character artwork for another, both of which existed in a fully rendered form on the disc.  Conversely, with Manhunt 2, a) the content in question was previously disclosed to the ESRB, b) the content is being modified by removing the obscuring blur effect that was programmed as part of the game, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.   

Q. Why does this instance not fall under the ESRB’s disclosure rule clarification requiring that locked-out content contained in the code on a game disc be considered in the assignment of a rating?

A. Our rule clarification following Hot Coffee required that pertinent content that is programmed to be locked out but which exists in an unmodified, fully rendered form on game discs must either be removed or disclosed to ESRB during the rating process.  In the case of Manhunt 2, the scenes in question were playable (not locked-out), programmed to include the blur effect, and fully disclosed to the ESRB.

 

 



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In short: I completely agree that this should not change the rating of the game though the differences between this and Hot coffee and their explanation is a little fuzzy to me (though not the Oblivion content).



Never mind, just read the article again and I get the hot Coffee VS Manhant 2 hack thing. The rendered images weren't modified in Hot Coffee, just had to modify the game to get there I guess. With Manhunt 2 you have to modify the actual rendered image of the game.

the difference at least makes sense now.



does anyone else laugh....like a whole lot....when they see or hear someone mention the phrase....

"unauthorized games"?

I'm just waiting for an ESRB content label of "This game may include fun and/or otherwise joyful activities, viewer discretion is advised."



To Each Man, Responsibility

Despite the "this is M for Mature so kids shouldn't be affected anyway" warnings, you know some groups are going to flip over this anyway.

Bah, censorship.



There is no such thing as a console war. This is the first step to game design.

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I love how Jack is already claiming that this proves R* and the ESRB conspired to put this content into the game and that the ESRB will soon be destroyed.



Phalanx said:
I love how Jack is already claiming that this proves R* and the ESRB conspired to put this content into the game and that the ESRB will soon be destroyed.

 Hey at leastJack and I have common ground, we both think they should be destroyed =)



To Each Man, Responsibility
Sqrl said:
Phalanx said:
I love how Jack is already claiming that this proves R* and the ESRB conspired to put this content into the game and that the ESRB will soon be destroyed.

Hey at leastJack and I have common ground, we both think they should be destroyed =)


Here's the problem with that:  Who would take over?

One of the users over at GP put it best:

 Dave Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:55 pm

Has anybody ever thought what would happen if the ESRB shut down? First would be that there would be NO new games on the market till an alternative is accepted by the masses. Stores (like walmart) won’t stock games listed AO, they can’t sell any game if there is NO rating system for risk of selling a mature game to 10yrs olds. Then somebody would have to form a new group. The game industry will NOT stand by to one run by a watchdog group so it would have to be run by the govt. That would take AGES to set up and get running. In the mean time, no new games on the market as there would be no ratings since the esrb will be disbanded. You really think MS, Sony and Nintendo would put up with that? No force in the world would stop the lawyers combined by those three.

 

That's not something I want to see happen. 

 



This is logical ... everyday people arent hackers , and the game is intended for everyday , non-hackers :P



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