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highwaystar101 on 12 December 2009
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.



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Slimebeast on 12 December 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.

I don't recognize the name but it's probably the same guy I've heard about, yes.

Living forever is crazy talk and not many agrees with him, because the body is too complex for not something to go wrong so the organism dies eventually. By design the internal repair mechanisms arent made to sustain a very long life, and the parts are too small and complex from a 'mechanical' perspective for them all to be able to be fixed externally.

But I understand his points, they're very important and breakthroughs in those areas will increase life expectancy tremendously beyond what we can imagine today. So I get your point, and it's very interesting. We're still living in a very primitive era of humanity.



SamuelRSmith on 12 December 2009
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.

I don't recognize the name but it's probably the same guy I've heard about, yes.

Living forever is crazy talk and not many agrees with him, because the body is too complex for not something to go wrong so the organism dies eventually. By design the internal repair mechanisms arent made to sustain a very long life, and the parts are too small and complex from a 'mechanical' perspective for them all to be able to be fixed externally.

But I understand his points, they're very important and breakthroughs in those areas will increase life expectancy tremendously beyond what we can imagine today. So I get your point, and it's very interesting. We're still living in a very primitive era of humanity.

That saddens me.



Kasz216 on 12 December 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.

I don't recognize the name but it's probably the same guy I've heard about, yes.

Living forever is crazy talk and not many agrees with him, because the body is too complex for not something to go wrong so the organism dies eventually. By design the internal repair mechanisms arent made to sustain a very long life, and the parts are too small and complex from a 'mechanical' perspective for them all to be able to be fixed externally.

But I understand his points, they're very important and breakthroughs in those areas will increase life expectancy tremendously beyond what we can imagine today. So I get your point, and it's very interesting. We're still living in a very primitive era of humanity.

That saddens me.

A way to look at it as turtles.  Once they reach adulthood... turtles don't age.

If taken well care of your turtle fesibly could get your great grandkid's turtle.  Yet something always happens... they get sick somehow etc.

People "Could" live forever.... however won't.



dtewi on 12 December 2009
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.

I don't recognize the name but it's probably the same guy I've heard about, yes.

Living forever is crazy talk and not many agrees with him, because the body is too complex for not something to go wrong so the organism dies eventually. By design the internal repair mechanisms arent made to sustain a very long life, and the parts are too small and complex from a 'mechanical' perspective for them all to be able to be fixed externally.

But I understand his points, they're very important and breakthroughs in those areas will increase life expectancy tremendously beyond what we can imagine today. So I get your point, and it's very interesting. We're still living in a very primitive era of humanity.

That saddens me.

A way to look at it as turtles.  Once they reach adulthood... turtles don't age.

If taken well care of your turtle fesibly could get your great grandkid's turtle.  Yet something always happens... they get sick somehow etc.

People "Could" live forever.... however won't.

What?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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Kasz216 on 12 December 2009
dtewi said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

You know what zero population growth is, correct?

A couple having two children on average. The two children replace the two parents. There is a net gain of zero people.

America has accomplished this, along with China (?).

And can you PLEASE get the real statistic of average children per couple instead of pulling it out of a hat?

No it's not if people live longer. And they do.

Medical tech and genetic engineering will allow those who are born today to live 100 years on average. And for each future generation the life expectancy will just keep increasing far beyond that.

You're in the medical industry so I'm sure you know of this guy, but have you ever read or heard of the work of Aubrey De Grey? He's a biologist/geneticist who believes that it is perfectly feasible for people to live forever by tackling seven key areas (Cancer, Mitochondrial mutations, intracellular aggregates, extracellular aggregates, cell loss, cell senescence and extracellular cross links).

It's interesting stuff.

I don't recognize the name but it's probably the same guy I've heard about, yes.

Living forever is crazy talk and not many agrees with him, because the body is too complex for not something to go wrong so the organism dies eventually. By design the internal repair mechanisms arent made to sustain a very long life, and the parts are too small and complex from a 'mechanical' perspective for them all to be able to be fixed externally.

But I understand his points, they're very important and breakthroughs in those areas will increase life expectancy tremendously beyond what we can imagine today. So I get your point, and it's very interesting. We're still living in a very primitive era of humanity.

That saddens me.

A way to look at it as turtles.  Once they reach adulthood... turtles don't age.

If taken well care of your turtle fesibly could get your great grandkid's turtle.  Yet something always happens... they get sick somehow etc.

People "Could" live forever.... however won't.

What?

Turtles don't age.  Turtles can't die of old age.

There organs don't break down or lose effectiveness.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/12/science/12turt.html?_r=1



outlawauron on 12 December 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
I think people who don't have kids should get tax breaks, and a new car.... and a crown!

Additionally children shouldn't be allowed out of the house after 5pm.

You just want a tax break, a new car and a crown because you don't have kids, don't you?

I think they should just give us people without children cash, lots and lots of cash. I'll settle for that.

That's completely idiotic as those with kids are the ones in need of money.



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