Yes, because most families don't want the computer hooked up to the tv at all. Whether you can hook it up to multiple displays is irrelevant.

Edit: It's not that they prefer monitors, that wasn't the 'obvious' thing I was getting at. The whole point was so that people could save money by hooking up to an alread owned HDTV instead of buying a monitor, so your comment did not further the conversion in any positive way.

If they don't want to hook it up at all then there is no issue to start with but if they want to play their pc games on the tv then they do want to hook it up maybe not enough to unhook it to the moniter but they do want it hooked up to the tv 

You completely missed the point of the original posts between shio and nightsurge. The point shio was trying to make was that PC gaming is cheaper than Xbox gaming. Part of that point was that for PC, you don't HAVE to buy a monitor because you can just hook it up to a TV. Nightsurge and I were saying about how that is silly, most people don't want to hook a PC up to their TV, and so would need to buy a monitor anyways; to which you responded "Well you can hook up to both, you just need a switch to go between them". Do you see how that makes no sense towards what we were talking about?

Although what you say is true the reason they don't want to hook it up to their tv has very little to do with pc gaming but the other things pcs have to offer so I agree with his point if your talking solo about gaming prices you shouldn't include the moniter in this debate 

We all think about the 1 gaming console. There are more multi-console users out there. But I had to choose, PC for the best gaming experience ever and cheaper if you like saving money, PS3 best exclusives(more for next year haha) with blu-ray already there, Wii best party machine with a lot of exclusives, DS best handheld console. Xbox is good for halo and gears and achievements. Hopefully the natal will make it even better.

To the dude that said i was ignorant for not liking a controller that a company was ignorant enough to release fps games to a console that used that controller needs a reality check.That controller was never intended for fps use ever.That controller was designed back when games were 32 bit and couldnt even dream of supporting a decent fps for a console.That all changed with the 64 and a smart design by nintendo for the jump into the 3d fps world with 007.

So im supposed to lie like you and say that
ratchet and clank little big planet etc look better than forza3 graphically.Who s biased here?
The fact is the ps3 is a great console but now a days a great piece piece of hardware is nothing without great software and i dont mean games i mean a actual os.

Why do you think the world is full of people who mac or windows the ps3 doesnt compare as far as ease of use and features go with software.At the end of the day when i want to game with friends its easier and more convenient with the 360.

Im not biased because of family if i was i would have never bought the ps3.The fact is when your gaming your not watching a bluray movie your gaming something nowadays that can be shared with the world and when a console doesnt allow you to do that effeciantly years after its release then somethings wrong.

Shio, how much did you spend on PC gaming hardware since 2005 (and you seem like a core PC gamer so I assume that you keep your rig up to date to play the latest stuff right on solid settings right?) If you don't mind answering. This will offer a good cost comparison with the Xbox 360. PC gamers always talk about how gaming rigs are cheap to build but rarely talk about the long-term costs of PC gaming (which is very important to consider because rigs have to be kept up to date and outright replaced after a certain while whereas in this gen, 360 and PS3 will have 6-7 years lifespan at least). And when I mean hardware, I'm talking about the rig(s), upgrades, gaming keyboards and mouse (if you use those instead of the standard stuff), etc.

I think we should leave monitors and HDTVs out of the equation because those have multiple uses outside of gaming. (And you can use the HDTV with PC gaming and the monitor for console gaming. I myself have been considering purchasing a 21-24" 1080p or more monitor because they are cheaper than similarly sized HDTVs and offer better resolution). You could argue that a desktop has use outside of gaming as well (of course though you don't need a gaming rig for everyday computer use. I could even keep my old P4 desktop for that until it eventually craps out. lol) but as someone who is a laptop user (and all my needs are met by the laptop sans playing the more demanding PC games), sell me on building a new desktop (which will only be used for gaming).

In other words you've never played Halo, gotcha.

Its always funny to me when people actually try and underestemate Halo's popularity. (Reach won't be another expansion pack, it will be as big as Halo 3 was if not bigger) I'll tell you who is not underestimating it, Sony. Its also funny that you call Natal a Wii copy cat, when what they are doing seems pretty different, furthermore Sony actually did put out their own version of the Wiimote but you don't call them a copycat. But i guess when Sony blatantly copies someone else its just fine, eh? Funny how you fanboys work....

I actually agree, keep the monitor out of it, it's easier that way, but shio brought it up by saying 'and you can just hook up the computer to a tv instead of buying a monitor'. He would have been better off not even mentioning that =P

PC gaming is expensive, but well worth it. Some games just feel wrong on consoles. I can't imagine playing dota, or D2, or Wow on a console, I just don't think it would work out well.

Edit: Typo

MOST CONSOLE GAMERS DON'T EVEN HAVE THEIR CONSOLES HOOKED TO HDTVS!!! So by your logic we should dismiss the fact that Xbox 360 supports HD resolution! If people have the option they can use it - PC gamers have the choice of hooking their PCs to HDTVs and not use a monitor, sit on the couch and use a gamepad. This is a trend that is happening more and more, and it allows PC gamers to choose where they play, how they play.

Dude, your argument is "X is irrelevant because most people don't use it", which shouldn't even be called an argument. So you say that it's better to pay to electric companies rather than pay for reneweable electric power? Get a grip.