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Forums - Sales - Famitsu Game Chartz 11/29-12/06 (NSMBWii rules all)

NeoMatrix said:
PS3 did 250k only because it sold half of initial PS3 FFXIII bundle shipments. Great excuse for high PS3 sales.
Do you understand, that sales won`t be high no matter how much(500k) you ship bundles, unless there is a demand for them!

Yes, and there is always extra demand for a limited edition bundle. People who own the system will buy it again for limited editions in addition to new buyers. Some people will use it as the extra motivation to get the console early shifting a few sales up earlier that would have still happened, but not on that specific date.

How have I come up with one "excuse" for PS3 sales? I showed where the extra bundles knocked the console above where I felt the high mark would be. This is in adition to the extra 500k copies of the game available over what was initially reported.



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PS3 sold 245k, while you said it will do 175k in best case. Everything else are excuses.
You know what, if PS3 would sell below 200k or below 175k, the excuse would be, that Square shipped not enough bundles.
PS3 did 245k and now you are saying, this is because Square shipped too many bundles. That is an excuses for your "I think 175k is probably too high as well based on what we have seen,".
Deal with that, you were wrong!



@ NeoMatrix: This is so petty, dude. lol!



NeoMatrix said:
johnsobas said:

unless PS3 got a big boost this week i don't expect PS3 to be > than wii for this year.  Next week Tales of Graces plus it will get further boosted from holidays, then wii should be around 150k on FF13 week due to seasonal effects alone. PS3 might sell more than 150k that week, but not by much.

Soriku said:
250k PS3s in FF XIII week? That's not gonna happen. Even the PS2 didn't get such drastic boosts when FFs came out for it. ioi predicted 175k for FF XIII week, seems reasonable enough. But the Wii will increase too. Unless the PS3 somehow gets boosted to like...70kish or 80kish this week (not likely, it'll sell in the 40ks) I don't see why the PS3 would win over the Wii.
c0rd said:

If VGC puts Assassin's Creed at 56k first week (Famitsu number), I believe that's the second highest opening for a PS3 western game in Japan, behind GTA IV. Not bad.

The PS3 will not have a 250k week. Even in the miracle that it does, the Wii would still take 2009, though it was very close.

Overall, nice numbers.

TheSource said:

The way I look at FFXIII is like this -

Say it has a 50% bigger opening than NSMB Wii, and comes in at 1,350,000 week one. Well, the PS3 costs 50% more than Wii does in Japan, 30,000 Yen to 20,000 Yen. So to have a bigger lift than Wii just had, ~60k - mostly due to NSMB Wii - then it needs to sell far more than 1.35m week one. PS3 will be able to get to perhaps 60,000 next week, so it will easily clear 100,000 on a 60k FFXIII rise, and the next mid December season lift. But even with a 1,350,000 debut, pushing 60,000 PS3s I don't know that it can push PS3 much past 135,000 or so in Japan, even with the normal lift you'd see from the Dec 13 to Dec 20 weeks that doesn't include FFXIII.

Gnizmo said:

@PS3 predictions
250k is way way too high. DQIX couldn't even get the DS that high, and it is selling way better than the PS3, and Dragon Quest is a bigger series. Keeping predictions reasonable is key. I think 175k is probably too high as well based on what we have seen, but I don't know quite how to factor in the holiday boost.

binary solo said:

PS3 =/= PS2. But it's possible that PS3 sales in Japan since Slim and price cut will look more like PS2 sales than pre-slim PS3 sales.

Let's say pre-FFXIII week is 65K in sales (that's reasonable isn't it if this week is 50K with no substantial software and last week was 41K?), this should make FFXIII week hit 140K in PS3 sales.

If PS3 hits 150K plus on FFXIII launch in Japan then that will be a very impressive and overachieving result according to my analysis. Less than 120K could be seen as a bit underwhelming, and less than 100K would be quite poor. It'll need to be at least 100K if WW PS3 is to make 1 million that week.

ioi said:

So for PS3, you can see that Sony sees much smaller boosts in the next 3 weeks than Nintendo historically so I'd expect maybe 70k next week then 95k then maybe 125k for the week ending 27th Dec. With the release of FFXIII this will be more like 75k, 175k and 135k vs 110k, 160k and 210k for Wii. The week ending 3rd Jan will be interesting though - I could see both at around 150k potentially as Nintendo drops and Sony rises again slightly.

It will be interesting, but I think those expecting 250k+ in Final Fantasy week could be a little disappointed - 175k would be impressive imo.

I say, OWNED.

FFXIII - 1,516,532
PS3 - 245,406
PS3 LTD - 4,265,969

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1230711_1124.html

Also Media Create has usually higher numbers.

 

 

Oh come on thats what I wanted to do. And now you did it. I am pretty satisfied after I recieved so much critisism because I predicted 250k Ps3s. 

 

 

My english was critisized and almost everybody disagreed with me making it look like I was a fanatic fanboy. There was just one person that agreed with me. 

And maybe its not 250k YET but we know that Vghartz numbers or Media Create numbers are always a little higher then Famitsu numbers. Everybody maked it look like it would be completly impossible for PS3 to reach 250k. That I really began to doubt my prediciton. Everybody who replied to my post failed as seen above. 

 

 

 

 



If you are not confident about something, then just don`t say it or don`t predict.
Otherwise, you will always look for excuses.

Saying 250k is not possible and now when it did around 250k, complain about high bundle shipments is just lame excuse.

For whatever reason it did, it sold around 250k. This is a fact.



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Everyone who said it wouldn't do 250k is correct though. :)



NeoMatrix said:

PS3 sold 245k, while you said it will do 175k in best case. Everything else are excuses.
You know what, if PS3 would sell below 200k or below 175k, the excuse would be, that Square shipped not enough bundles.
PS3 did 245k and now you are saying, this is because Square shipped too many bundles. That is an excuses for your "I think 175k is probably too high as well based on what we have seen,".
Deal with that, you were wrong!

Yes, I did say probably. That states a certain uncertainty in my post. My exact idea was 2X the previous week plus 40kish. If you are unable to follow why a prediction is reasonable at one time, and then due to changing circumstances is now invalid I feel sorry for you. Trying to claim something as ludicrous as FFXIII bundles did nothing to help sales is nothing but nonsensical babble.

The only one who appears to be unable to deal with being wrong is you. You went out of your way to try and "own" people who made reasonable predictions and are being proven wrong. The PS3 likely could have gone even higher with more bundles as those sell excessive amounts. It is called making predictions based on the facts at hand, and not personal desire.



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Kenology said:
Everyone who said it wouldn't do 250k is correct though. :)

I'm sure one of the four tracking services will be the banner whenever they put it over 250k. I mean, that's so close.



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outlawauron said:
Kenology said:
Everyone who said it wouldn't do 250k is correct though. :)

I'm sure one of the four tracking services will be the banner whenever they put it over 250k. I mean, that's so close.

I'm just teasing NeoMatrix, don't pay me any attention.



Gnizmo - you said: "I think 175k is probably too high as well".
Fact.

PS3 sold 245k. You failed.
Fact.