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Yeah, that would make sense. I forgot that Japan's week starts on Monday. So with about an 80k advantage to the Wii it Looks like it's basically going to come down to how big of a boost FFXIII will give. I'd say it's a coin toss. Although Wii does seem to be holding most of the cards at the moment.



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ViolentPhlegm said:
jarrod said:
ViolentPhlegm said:
postofficebuddy said:
@Jarrod Depending on how you define the start of the year PS3 is either 36k up on the Wii or 28k down as of last week's numbers. Could someone clarify if Dec 28 2008-Jan 3 2009 is this year or last? I would assume last since it has 4 days in 2008 and 3 in 2009.


VGC defines 2009 as including the week ended Jan 4. (And yes, it's Jan 4.  Japan's sales weeks end on Sunday making the week in question 3 days of 2008 and 4 days of 2009.)  I'm not sure how Famitsu and MC define the year.  Someone else had indicated to me that they include that week in 2008 but I've never looked it up.

IIRC, the new year week always gets counted with the, well, new year.  


VGC does not follow that convention.  The rule seems to be whether the majority of the days of the week are in the new year or the old year.  2005, for example, ended on Jan 1, 2006.  This year looks like it will end on Jan 3 (the 2009 Japan page says Jan 4 but I think that's a typo because the 4th is a Monday) making 2009 a 53-week year (it has to happen sometimes).

EDIT: My previous example year managed to illustrate nothing.  Need more  sleep.

I was talking about Japan, New Year is the big deal holiday for them and that's why it gets counted with the following year in Famitsu/MC sales iirc.



ioi said:
I'm not sure there will be much of a Wii drop next week, I'd expect hardware to be at around 75k anyway from holiday boosts so with continued boosts from NSMB Wii and Tales of Graces bundle I'd expect close to 100k again.

Actually, looking at the historical data, I'm inclined to agree now.  Last year Wii had Taiko debuting (106k) and it's 3rd week of Animal Crossing (98k) and it managed 92k (up from 57k the previous week).  This year they have 2nd week of New Mario (over 500k?), 2nd week of Musou 3 (50k+?) and the debut of Tales of Graces (~200k?) which also has a hardware bundle and it's coming off a 101k week.  Wii hardware may actually increase next week, which is just staggering to think about...



175k would still be the best week for the PS3 if I remember correctly.



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mibuokami said:
TheSource said:

175,000 is more than what DS did at a cheaper price with DQIX selling 2,350,000 week one.

Beyond that even when PS3 had the 10,000 Yen price and new model introduced simultaneously along with some new software, it only jumped to 153,000.

 

DS has a much bigger market saturation than the PS3. Both titles are massive in Japan but a lot less people needed to buy a DS to play DQIX. I'm betting on the FFXII gives a higher percentile push than DQIX.

This. Yes its true that even the DS didnt get that big a boost,, but really the DS was a much more widespread, and practically DQ9 attracts alot of the mainstream which DS already has. However the PS3 now is probably the opposite of what the DS is, but its getting one of the biggest franchises in japan. I just think that since their's only a 4 million userbase for the PS3, alot of people who dont own it will want this game, so i expect the PS3 to be way above where the Wii is and closer to 175-200k levels. Hell who would've thought the slim would've done 150k first week? i think 200k is not really outa the question here.

Plus @the source

It isnt how much a game sells that gives a boost accordingly, it's what the game represents, how much an initial impact it will give, and much more. MH3 gave a huge boost with "only" 570k" opening. MGS4 boosted hardware sales from 10k levels to abt 70-80k if i recall well, I cant see why F13 wont have a similar pattern on a bigger scale. Plus NSMB is a game that will sustain Wii levels more than giving it an initial boost, the comparison is definitely not right



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Since ioi is in this thread, I thought I'd ask, is the schedule back to normal for number updates? I mean, will numbers be up Thursdays or have upcoming numbers also been pushed back by the Black Friday sales from last week?



Lafiel said:
trestres said:
Netyaroze said:
If its just a little over 100k it wont be enough for the Wii to "win" this christmas . FF13 boost will be bigger. It could happen that PS3 2009 Japan>Wii 2009 Japan and that would be massive. I never heard of a third place console which managed to outsell for a year the leader in one region. Has Saturn ever outsold Playstation 1 in Japan ? The NSMBWII boost have to have big legs so Japan will fall to Wii.


I think he is Crazzyman.

I think your kind of paranoia is pretty sad.

What he said may be a bit optimistic in favor of the PS3, but in no way lunatic/"crazzy" as this years battle for Japan is very very close.

I might have overreacted, but that's the same arguement ZorroX used and the same way he tried to downplay NSMBWii opening. No need to call me sad, mainly because I have a thread which I keep updated every single week about Wii vs PS3 in Japan. You should check out things before calling names.

And I appologize to Netyaroze, I was too quick to judge, although I did find out ZorroX was Crazzyman. I will find his alternate if he has one, be sure.



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jarrod said:
Kenology said:
jarrod said:
postofficebuddy said:
@Jarrod Depending on how you define the start of the year PS3 is either 36k up on the Wii or 28k down as of last week's numbers. Could someone clarify if Dec 28 2008-Jan 3 2009 is this year or last? I would assume last since it has 4 days in 2008 and 3 in 2009.

See, I thought they were dead even, but then The Source shamed me with numbers?  Are you going by Famitsu or MC ytd, I think I'm going to actually have to look this up (ugh)?

Please?

Found MC... this is before NSMB week...

Wii ytd: 1,312,870

PS3 ytd: 1,284,029

 

...so close to VGC (29k vs 36k, favoring Wii).  I'm guessing Famitsu will be similar?  After this week it'll be up 70-80k then?

Thanks, dude!

MC tends to have PS3 higher (it has lately anyways), so I'd expect a bigger gap in Famitsu data.



trestres said:

I might have overreacted, but that's the same arguement ZorroX used and the same way he tried to downplay NSMBWii opening.

For what it's worth, ZorroX predicted 125,000 for Wii this week (revised numbers).  His original predictions (before NSMBW's release date was moved) had the Wii doing 115,000 for the week ended Nov 22.



Kenology said:
jarrod said:
Kenology said:
jarrod said:
postofficebuddy said:
@Jarrod Depending on how you define the start of the year PS3 is either 36k up on the Wii or 28k down as of last week's numbers. Could someone clarify if Dec 28 2008-Jan 3 2009 is this year or last? I would assume last since it has 4 days in 2008 and 3 in 2009.

See, I thought they were dead even, but then The Source shamed me with numbers?  Are you going by Famitsu or MC ytd, I think I'm going to actually have to look this up (ugh)?

Please?

Found MC... this is before NSMB week...

Wii ytd: 1,312,870

PS3 ytd: 1,284,029

 

...so close to VGC (29k vs 36k, favoring Wii).  I'm guessing Famitsu will be similar?  After this week it'll be up 70-80k then?

Thanks, dude!

MC tends to have PS3 higher (it has lately anyways), so I'd expect a bigger gap in Famitsu data.

I can't find the exact ytd figures (and I'm not adding them up, lol) but here's a Garaph's uh, graph, for ytd...