Heavy Rain

Ok I am going to let you guys on a secret … Mickey and Mario are evil! shh! Don’t tell I told you but
they plan to take over the world!

I don't follow Heavy Rain extensively. I have watched gameplay videos here and there. I know there are 4 main characters or something like that. I do think it's an adventure game though even if it's a thriller. :x

OT: Epic Mickey. Regardless who is making the game or if this game turns out to be good, it would sell on brand name and marketing alone. There is no way Disney would just release it and not market it heavily.

Fine!

but I don't think general public would be able to tell the difference between an adventure game and a thriller. That's challenge the game will face.

When someone claim a game is an 'adventure game' they are generally refering to the genre that has been clearly define rather than some ambigious and debatable public perception. The former is a firm concept that has clearly define rule while the later is far more nebulous and can shift depending on person to person.

I can have a good argument that uncharted is a shooter for example, because there's a lot of shooting involve in it and I can make a pormise to you that dragging a few random joe of the street will see at least a good number of them agree with me. Perception is not a classification.

Heavy Rain IS an adventure game, just like Mario is a platformer and Halo is a FPS, these are classification and they should be adhere to because the public perception isn't a measuring stick on how a game should be categorised. To the public, Gears of War and Halo are both 'shooters' but we clearly label them TPS and FPS even if we too call them shooters.

There is no argument here because public perception isn't measuring stick for genre, it's a label to describe the game from a person's perspective and we're simply not speaking on the same wavelength.

However I feel you should concede that it is very valid to call Heavy Rain an adventure game, exactly as how its predecessor was classified.

Epic Mickey...

Anyway doesn't Heavy Rain fall in the same category like Space Ace (1984) and Dragon's Lair (1983) which where totally awesome games...

A) Farenheit / Indigo Prophecy

B) According to IGN:

Also Known As: Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer [demo title]
Exclusively on: PlayStation 3
Genre: Adventure  <<<<<<<<<<<<take note!
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment
Developer: Quantic Dream
OFLC Rating: RP

Just an example but certainly not a voice alone!

C) I'll let it drop now.

Yeah, I don't understand how people miss this (though maybe they haven't looked into things). Disney went out of their way to acquire Junction Point Studios (Warren Spector) in order to make this game, why would they skimp out on advertisement? That would be a huge waste of money. This is one of the few AAA western titles on the Wii, it can't be compared to other games crapped out on the DS / Wii.

Also, it's freaking Mickey Mouse, the company mascot. He may not be as big as Mario, but he fares pretty well when compared to the rest of the games Disney has come out with.

Finally, Warren Spector's involvement really seals the deal. The chances of the game disappointing are slim, as he's got a great track record.

I'll say this right now, I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if the game doesn't nab at least 2 million (I'm expecting a lot more, tbh).

Oh wii games get told that all the time haha.  But does it actually happen?  Not usually.  Really looking over 3rd party offerings on the Wii, there are very few I can comment on and say they had a well oiled and functioning hype/marketing machine.  Best one so far has been Monster Hunter 3 and it achieved awesome sales because of it.  Hopefully they'll carry that same marketing campaign to the west.  Others include Call of Duty: World at War (well over a million in sales), Red Steel (one of Wii's biggest launch titles), every Guitar Hero game (of course those were multiplay advertising), the Lego games (one again multiplat advertising), EA Sports Active (well over 2 million and ever growing), Mario and Sonic games (of course could be seen as first party game as well), and a few more that I'm probably forgetting.

Now look at these games.  All huge successes.  Wii games are no different than that of 360, PS3, PC, PSP, DS, etc.  For a videogame to be successful the advertising needs to sell it.  You rarely ever sell a game off of its own merit of existing (that's why Halo and Mario are still advertised along with popular brand such as Coke and Windows).  Most Wii games just dont' get that level of advertising while PS360 games and a few DS games do.  Could even throw PSP in that category as well.  As I've said numerous time sover, if Wii were to get the level of advertising as PS360 games (and the level of big brands) well over a 100 Wii games would have easily sold a million copies by now. 

Now when it comes to Epic Mickey, they are saying they are going to give it the advertising of a big game, but how many times have Wii games been told this and they not fulfill it.  Now they did get first entry through a GI cover so that's a start but I'm still skeptical and for good reason.  I hope Disney Interactive treats this like a huge game on the Wii but I hold my doubts.  I'll wait for E3 to see how they advertise this game.  I hope they collaborate with Ninty to get that as a frontrunner at their conference.