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heruamon on 07 December 2009

LOL...is this guy on M$'s payroll? Don't wory Wada-san, Lost Planet 2 will sell 3 million on the 360 to make your happy...oh wait...that's Capcom, not Square...damn dude, you're screwed!



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richardhutnik on 07 December 2009
reaver_x said:
g-value said:
The reason why Western games don't sell in Japan is because most western game's storylines suck hippo assholes. Japanese people care about story. If they didn't then rpgs wouldn't be so popualr there. Also, the japanese don't like the mindless violence that western games bring.

and this is why a lot of western games will never be classics IMO

Lots of game all over will never be classics either.  This also includes Japan.



g-value on 07 December 2009
coolestguyever said:
g-value said:
coolestguyever said:
PullusPardus said:
coolestguyever said:
Western Games > Japanese Games

and this guy is exactly what i was talking about just now.

Not just MW2 bud. Assassin's Creed 2, God of War 3, GT5 (yeah its made in Japan, but for a mostly western audience), Heavy Rain, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo 3, Gears of War, etc.

 

What's japan got? Final Fantasy?

Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Metal Gear Solid, GT5 (Its a japanese game), Mario, Pokemon, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden and the greatest game of all time Xenogears.

Japanese games >>>>>>>>>>>> Western games

1. WTF is Shin Megami?

2. Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden are mediocre

3. Okay I'll give you MGS, FF, Mario, Pokemon and even GT5 (my most looked forward to game)

 

But damn west has so many. I'm getting tired of listing them but there's Grand Theft Auto, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Crash Bandicoot, Gears of War, Halo, Modern Warfare, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout, God of War, Half Life (oh yeah!), Left 4 Dead, Bioshock, Tom Clancy Games and more.

Western Games >>>>>>> Japanese games

Persona series (to be more exact), Final Fantasy series, Kingdom Hearts series, MGS series, Mario series, Pokemonm series, GT5, Zelda series, Xenogears (best game ever), Chrono series, Demon Souls, Valkyria series, Diagaea series, Grandia series (until Grandia 3), Lunar series, Star Ocean series (just kidding)

Japanese games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Western games



MontanaHatchet on 07 December 2009
reaver_x said:
g-value said:
The reason why Western games don't sell in Japan is because most western game's storylines suck hippo assholes. Japanese people care about story. If they didn't then rpgs wouldn't be so popualr there. Also, the japanese don't like the mindless violence that western games bring.

and this is why a lot of western games will never be classics IMO

Are you guys serious?

Most remembered games have fairly barebones stories (Super Mario Bros. springs to mind) but define themselves in other ways. A good story is only a small part of it. And the funny thing about saying that these western games won't be remembered ____ years from now is that that time hasn't passed yet. You really have no idea of what will happen.



 

 

MontanaHatchet on 07 December 2009
reaver_x said:
g-value said:
The reason why Western games don't sell in Japan is because most western game's storylines suck hippo assholes. Japanese people care about story. If they didn't then rpgs wouldn't be so popualr there. Also, the japanese don't like the mindless violence that western games bring.

and this is why a lot of western games will never be classics IMO

Are you guys serious?

Most remembered games have fairly barebones stories (Super Mario Bros. springs to mind) but define themselves in other ways. A good story is only a small part of it. And the funny thing about saying that these western games won't be remembered ____ years from now is that that time hasn't passed yet. You really have no idea of what will happen.



 

 

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PullusPardus on 07 December 2009
coolestguyever said:
g-value said:
coolestguyever said:
PullusPardus said:
coolestguyever said:
Western Games > Japanese Games

and this guy is exactly what i was talking about just now.

Not just MW2 bud. Assassin's Creed 2, God of War 3, GT5 (yeah its made in Japan, but for a mostly western audience), Heavy Rain, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo 3, Gears of War, etc.

 

What's japan got? Final Fantasy?

Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Metal Gear Solid, GT5 (Its a japanese game), Mario, Pokemon, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden and the greatest game of all time Xenogears.

Japanese games >>>>>>>>>>>> Western games

1. WTF is Shin Megami?

2. Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden are mediocre

3. Okay I'll give you MGS, FF, Mario, Pokemon and even GT5 (my most looked forward to game)

 

But damn west has so many. I'm getting tired of listing them but there's Grand Theft Auto, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Crash Bandicoot, Gears of War, Halo, Modern Warfare, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout, God of War, Half Life (oh yeah!), Left 4 Dead, Bioshock, Tom Clancy Games and more.

Western Games >>>>>>> Japanese games

@bolded

1) More Reason why i think you don't know wtf you talking about

2) Yes because they're westernized , same goes to Bayonnetta.

also

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2900145&page=3&postnum=9

can't ignore this



Esmoreit on 07 December 2009

There we go:

Another 5 million units sold and it costed me only 5 minutes in paint to make this ad.

 



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TheThunder on 07 December 2009

Damn there is some dumb DUMB posts in this thread

 

There is no Westren classics !!

 

that's it



g-value on 07 December 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
reaver_x said:
g-value said:
The reason why Western games don't sell in Japan is because most western game's storylines suck hippo assholes. Japanese people care about story. If they didn't then rpgs wouldn't be so popualr there. Also, the japanese don't like the mindless violence that western games bring.

and this is why a lot of western games will never be classics IMO

Are you guys serious?

Most remembered games have fairly barebones stories (Super Mario Bros. springs to mind) but define themselves in other ways. A good story is only a small part of it. And the funny thing about saying that these western games won't be remembered ____ years from now is that that time hasn't passed yet. You really have no idea of what will happen.

Then explain to me why rpgs are so popular in Japan? If the japanese people care only for gameplay then then rpgs would not be as popular as they are today in Japan since most rpgs are story-driven.



reaver_x on 07 December 2009
Soriku said:
g-value said:
The reason why Western games don't sell in Japan is because most western game's storylines suck hippo assholes. Japanese people care about story. If they didn't then rpgs wouldn't be so popualr there. Also, the japanese don't like the mindless violence that western games bring.


That, and not enough memorable characters, no good music (JP music in games are CLASSIC. Western games? No. How often do people say Western games have great soudntracks? Not often.), and different style gameplay than what they're used to.

well some may argue that japanese games(mostly rpgs) dont use a different style of gameplay either.  However when i play a game like MW2 and i see that the game is exactly the same as the previous title, i really have to question why the game is as popular as it is. With Japanese games however i dont have this problem. if a game has similar gameplay too another game and someone were to ask wats so special about it, we can argue that the story and characters are what made it special and wat made it a classic. and You just wont get that kind of reception from most western games