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I see your point, but in this generation the two HD consoles are so close in sales, and budgets are so high, that a developer needs a damn good reason for making an exclusive. You can blame this on increased competition and especially on the soaring budgets for making a game.

Games are not like movies where you make money on the cinema, then on DVD/Blu-ray and then on TV. Most of the time, you have a very small one-time chance of making a profit (before people start trading their used copies), and you better be ready to make the most of it immediately.

best quote of the tread... if i am gonna spend my 65 bucks (10 bucks more then last gen almost one hundred freaking dollars!!!!!) on a game it better be fucking awesome.... most games this gen are not but there are some gems.

i cant believe a poster is willing to accept  underpar games so the greedy company can make MORE money out of us.... we are stupid consumers and companies will keep on rapping us because we will still buy crap.

There hasn't been a proper Splinter Cell since 2005

There are very few games that would be or have been impacted by multiplatting (Heavy Rain, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta come to mind). I especially don't see how this should affect Quantum. It was never pushing the PS3 technically in a way that isn't just as doable on the 360.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 has been fitted to the PS3's capabilities, but it's actually less impressive in terms of tech than Ninja Gaiden 2, despite also being hailed as the better game.

Bayonetta was built to greatly utilize the 360, and resulted in a crappy PS3 port, but if it hadn't been built in that way, instead focusing on being multiplat friendly in graphics, the PS3 version could have been much better without sacrificing quality in gameplay. Or they could have gone for the Ninja Gaiden solution, and rebuilt the game for the PS3, to make sure it would come into its own right.

Heavy Rain is a different beast, because it is so heavily dependant on the unified storage of a single blu-ray disc, something that cannot be replicated on the 360. It would not have been what it is today if Sony had not decided to fund the game though, ensuring exclusivity in the process.

Finally, no. Exclusives are not always ahead. Which is more techically impressive, inFamous or Assassin's Creed 2? Modern Warfare 2 or Killzone 2? Both choices have something in common, but they are striving for different things in terms of technology. And is the technologically superior game the best one, not to mention the more innovative one? And does that have anything to do with said technology?

seriously since the beginning of this generation both consoles have been losing exclusives. We need to look to first party titles for exclusives since third party isn't willing to take a financial loss with only one platform.

That would have been my answer.

I'll add I look at it from more of a PC background - as a result I don't really like the concept of exclusives.

Yes, they mean titles tuned to perfection (well, sometimes) for that HW, with titles like Uncharted 2 and Gears, but it also means witholding access to the broader community - in the end an exclusive is there to try and get you to have that particular console, and for no real other business reason.

I see a console like a Toaster.  The fact it says Sony on the side or MS or Nintendo is irrelivent to me.  In fact, I'd prefer if they all had same spec and titles like DVD players and competed on additional features, etc.  Different specs, etc. is a pain - either you limit yourself to a single strand of titles, or you have to buy multiple damn pieces of otherwise useless electronics to get access to the whole catalogue.  To me it's like having to buy Panasonic to watch Warner movies on my TV and a Samsung to watch Fox movies.

From the look of it, in this case this title wasn't going to be an Uncharted 2 - it's on Unreal tech I gather, which works better on the 360 anyway, and I think what is very likely going to be an average title has just gone from being an average title only available to PS3 owners to an average title available to PS3/360 owners, which I actually see as better for the end consumer.

If the title is fairly average then it's definately going to be better for Tecmo, as they're going to need every sale they can get in that case.

I will say I do enjoy what I see as a proper exclusive, such as Gears or Uncharted for the reason's you give - but with specs near enough identical, I see no reason for the majority of titles not to be multiplatform.

The thing is, most companies are not making money during this gen. They make a lot of money on a few blockbusters but then blow it all on other games which don't make profits.

You can bet that if all games cost less than $50, a lot of studios would not exist today.

God no. Splinter cell isnt out but i didnt like any of those games. I did enjoy Sonic Unleashed, Ninja Blade and Silent Hill tho. Variety is key. Some people actually have tastes in gaming and dont just play what metacritic tells them to.