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cgkc17 on 01 December 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Kantor said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Out of 20 Wii games I own, only 3 are third party, seriously, third parties need to step up on the Wii

Now, whose fault is that? The third parties' for not making Wii games, or yours for not buying them and supporting their efforts? Because I can sure as hell name more than three quality third party Wii games. Off the top of my head:

-Zack and Wiki

-MadWorld

-No More Heroes

-World at War

-The Conduit

Five, without even thinking.

I own Zack and Wiki, had no interest in any of the other games on your list

what does interest you?



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Kantor on 01 December 2009
jarrod said:
Developing HD games is also 'risky'. Just ask Free Radical, GRiN, Sega Racing Studio, Factor 5, Pandemic Studios...

You know what all of those studios had in common? They made crappy games, and paid the price.



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jarrod on 01 December 2009
Kantor said:
maykissthebride said:
Kantor said:
But when the Wii does get a "large" third party game, while it does sell very well, it doesn't match the sales of the HD versions.

Can you point an exemple?

An exemple of the wii getting a "large" third party game

Cmon, i wanna hear it.

World at War.

You asked me to name a large third party game on the Wii which sold less than the HD versions, and I did so. You can't complain about "inferior versions" (though I hear the Wiimote is better for FPS than the gamepad, never tried it), because remember, that's part of rule 1.

How about Guitar Hero?



Soma on 01 December 2009
maykissthebride said:
Kantor said:
But when the Wii does get a "large" third party game, while it does sell very well, it doesn't match the sales of the HD versions.

Can you point an exemple?

An exemple of the wii getting a "large" third party game

Cmon, i wanna hear it.

 

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Avinash_Tyagi on 01 December 2009
Xen said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Out of 20 Wii games I own, only 3 are third party, seriously, third parties need to step up on the Wii

Then pay more attention to stuff that's released on the Wii. There are tons of good third party games on the platform, exclusive and multiplat.

No, there really isn't, I know, I've played a lot of Wii third party games, haven't enjoyed most of them enough to buy



 

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Kantor on 01 December 2009
jarrod said:
Kantor said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Out of 20 Wii games I own, only 3 are third party, seriously, third parties need to step up on the Wii

Now, whose fault is that? The third parties' for not making Wii games, or yours for not buying them and supporting their efforts? Because I can sure as hell name more than three quality third party Wii games. Off the top of my head:

-Zack and Wiki

-MadWorld

-No More Heroes

-World at War

-The Conduit

Five, without even thinking.

Ew.  Here, I'll give you an actual list of good games...

  1. Klonoa
  2. Little King's Story
  3. Muramasa: The Demon Blade
  4. Ghost Squad
  5. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition

I said without thinking, those are all valid.

Which brings us up to ten.



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cgkc17 on 01 December 2009
maykissthebride said:
cgkc17 said:
 

What does it matter to you if a game doesn't have the same amount of production values or advertising? does it make it less fun to play?

 

YES!!!!!!!!!!

 

production values = care in the making, creativity, effort, investment.

 

Less produtcion values = crappier game!!!!!

So Little Kings Story, Tales of Symphonia: DotNW, No More Heroes, and Rune Factory Frontier are all crappier games than Resident Evil 5, Assassins Creed, or MW2?



Avinash_Tyagi on 01 December 2009
cgkc17 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Kantor said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Out of 20 Wii games I own, only 3 are third party, seriously, third parties need to step up on the Wii

Now, whose fault is that? The third parties' for not making Wii games, or yours for not buying them and supporting their efforts? Because I can sure as hell name more than three quality third party Wii games. Off the top of my head:

-Zack and Wiki

-MadWorld

-No More Heroes

-World at War

-The Conduit

Five, without even thinking.

I own Zack and Wiki, had no interest in any of the other games on your list

what does interest you?

The three third party games I own are RE4 Wii, Rabbids go home, Zack and Wiki, recent Nintendo games I bought, Wii Sports resort, Wii Fit plus, Metroid Prime Trilogy and New Super Mario Bros. Wii



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

jarrod on 01 December 2009
Kantor said:
jarrod said:
Developing HD games is also 'risky'. Just ask Free Radical, GRiN, Sega Racing Studio, Factor 5, Pandemic Studios...

You know what all of those studios had in common? They made crappy games, and paid the price.

Sega Rally Revo was pretty much the opposite of crappy.  And it still bombed so hard Sega closed the developer within six months.

Actually, Sega's one of the few publishers to really have almost nothing but bombs on the HD machines and some ridiculous success on Wii.



maykissthebride on 01 December 2009
Kantor said:
maykissthebride said:
Kantor said:
But when the Wii does get a "large" third party game, while it does sell very well, it doesn't match the sales of the HD versions.

Can you point an exemple?

An exemple of the wii getting a "large" third party game

Cmon, i wanna hear it.

World at War.

You asked me to name a large third party game on the Wii which sold less than the HD versions, and I did so. You can't complain about "inferior versions" (though I hear the Wiimote is better for FPS than the gamepad, never tried it), because remember, that's part of rule 1.

LOL!


I cant complain about "inferior versions"?


Of course i can!!!!

 

You have a better product and a worse product. Do you want both to sell the same??????