If you start your approach in gamemaking with "today we are going to start developing an M-rated game", you are doing it wrong!

The rating is not supposed to tell you who will enjoy the game, it only tells you who SHOULDN'T play the game.

Also, an M rating is usually acquired through use of gore, sex and/or excessive violence in the "plot". Why this makes a game better I don't know. People need to understand that this part of games simply SUCK ASS. Game developers can't write good scripts, because they are all computer geeks, not authors. Playing a game for the "good" story is absurd, it's like watching porn for the good acting.

If Wind Waker had gritty graphics, enemies that bled and a sexy, adult Zelda, would it get a different rating by the ESRB? Probably. Would the game be any better for adults? No. It would be exactly the same game with a different look.

Mario should be rated M, i saw how that evil man mushes all those helpless animals with his jumping attack and burning them into the ground with that fire power. They took out the blood in those games just like l4d2(aus)

;_; the horror

What I mean is, in house teams as well as those owned through purchase are the ones recognized as developing a game. This isn't the case for Nintendo as a whole. Retro Studios, for example, has nothing to do with a Mario game, yet they are still part of the whole picture called Nintendo. So, I basically mean, that "Nintendo" doesn't develop these games, but more of individual teams in Nintendo.

I'm not very good with these things but...

According to Wikipedia Retro Studios is an internal divison just like EAD and thus a game done by Retro is a game made by Nintendo or am I missing something?
First-party studios are also considered being a part of Nintendo, so I guess you could say games made by those studios are made by Nintendo? Otherwise games made by Nintendo Software Technology (NST) aren't "Nintendo games" which makes things confusing for me.

How did you come to the last conclusion? The other two sound fine to me.

Um, now that I think about it, the last one didn't make much sense, did it...

I was just thinking about whether or not games made by Monolith Soft could be considered made by Nintendo and then I saw them listed as a consolidated divison just like NST. So........well..........I think I need someone explain to me the meaning of a consolidated division.

yea, and they're called second party for a reason :p

Several of Nintendo's games are rated M for Mario.

a game doesn't have to be rated M to be for older players. They have published several M rated games in the past though. Didn't read the whole forum but did anyone mention conkers bad fur day? Who knows, with team ninja doing metroid, it may get an m rating too.

you seem to be really upset in this thread (*shows at your first post*) why do you feel the need to bash ''mature games/gamers'' ???