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Heavenly Sigma on 23 November 2009

Yet they have no browser. It was the first thing I expected to have been added this gen to Live. I was shocked when I looked at the features and it was missing and after seeing how Microsoft has been doing things this gen I don't think we will see one next gen either. Atleast Wii wisend up and did that online TV thing in europe. Hopefully this means music and movies next time.



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theprof00 on 23 November 2009

What the hell does "streets ahead mean"?
Shouldn't they have gone with miles ahead?
Makes it sound like they are just barely ahead.



Wii_Master on 23 November 2009

wii and ps3 were fist to use "facebook" as u could access it using the browser whcihc itself can do everything....so shut up ms



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Carl on 23 November 2009
ironman said:
gurglesletch said:
How were they the first to use facebook? Facebook has always been usable from the ps3 browser

That's laughable. The PS3 browser is crappy. Also, the PS3 does not have a Facebook specific app yet, the 360 does. That is why MS can make such a claim.

Id rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. It provides a whole bunch of content that i cant access on my 360.

As for "Specific app". Yes, PS3 does have one... From the latest Firmware update.



                            

ironman on 23 November 2009
Reasonable said:
ironman said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
ironman said:
gurglesletch said:
How were they the first to use facebook? Facebook has always been usable from the ps3 browser

That's laughable. The PS3 browser is crappy. Also, the PS3 does not have a Facebook specific app yet, the 360 does. That is why MS can make such a claim.

PS3 browser isnt 'crappy' its good for most things, IT does also mean i have facebook, twitter, youtube anything i want really so not 'crappy' at all lol

So then you must think Internet Explorer is not a crappy browser. Nor is my cell phone browser since It does allow me access to all the aforementioned sites. You sir are silly, just because you have a browser, does not mean it will work as well as an app used for one specific purpose. 

What does the 360 app add?  Is it just a specific app to do the same stuff as accessing Facebook from your PC (after all generic browser access to Facebook, whether from PC or iPhone is arguably the standard approach) or does it add stuff specific to gaming, etc.?  I'm presuming the latter, otherwise it offers nothing other than an integrated access point to the same destination.

I like it when stuff like this is integrated, and do feel Sony either need to give their browser a big boost or simply go via direct integration, but I think wayyy too many people make a big deal about it in terms of making a difference to either console.  It's simply plugging them into something that already exists with wayyy more users accessing it via other means, hardly Earthshattering and in the end, if you like Facebook, if the end result is similar whether via a PS3 browser or an integrated app neither can be said to be a huge USP.

Anyway, I think the title's misleading.  I thought Natal was MS killer weapon? 

The 360 app is not a web browser. It is a Facebook specific app...so it streamlines everything and makes it easy to update your status, scores, and achievements on Facebook. Same with the Twitter app. Sure, it may seem pointless, but then, isn't that the case with Facebook and Twitter as well?

Besides, as crappy as the PS3 web browser is, it still has one vs. the 360 which does not. So don't for a minute think I am trolling the PS3's web browser, I'm just putting things into perspective for the blind.  



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youarebadatgames on 23 November 2009
CaseyDDR said:
Squilliam said:
KratosHimself said:

“When we first got into the console business, we understood that the elements that were going to define success in this business were really software and services. We knew that the hardware component was important, but really wasn’t the vital thing.”

 

Anyone who has been burned by the RROD will not appreciate that comment.

 

They are basically admitting they knew they were putting shoddy hardware on the market and don't see reliability as "vital".

 

 

Nintendo have said the same thing actually. So theres no real connection between the two concepts.

Yah but Nintendo didn't build a shitty console that breaks every 3 months. 

Live basically just adds a bunch of fluff and calls it revolutionary. Who the hell wants to listen to a radio on their console? SERIOUSLY? I can Twitter or check FB on my PHONE faster than you can on Live.

The debate should be gameplay stability between PSN and Live, not who can add the most bullshit. 

Live is a walled garden, because MS wants to control the user experience.  That is why there will not be a web browser added.

Secondly, paying for Live gives the perception of value, which rightfully or not makes Live rank higher in the perception of customers.  But a side effect of paying for Live is that it links an account to value, so there is disincentive to behave badly.  Hopefully that means some parents will raise an eyebrow when little johnny gets banned for racial slurs when he has to explain why they have to pay for a new account as opposed to just making a new account to continue his asshattery.

It's the same reason why people pay to be part of groups like CEVO or clubs.  For what Live offers the price is insignificant, unless you are really poor but in that case you have other things to be worrying about.



theprof00 on 23 November 2009
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
ironman said:
gurglesletch said:
How were they the first to use facebook? Facebook has always been usable from the ps3 browser

That's laughable. The PS3 browser is crappy. Also, the PS3 does not have a Facebook specific app yet, the 360 does. That is why MS can make such a claim.

Id rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. It provides a whole bunch of content that i cant access on my 360.

As for "Specific app". Yes, PS3 does have one... From the latest Firmware update.


So if you are on your 360 and need to browse, you turn off your 360 and turn on your ps3....? really? 

I just open my laptop.... maybe I'm odd.

PS IS meant to undermine the PC business...so in a way, it makes complete sense if he did that. Not everyone can afford a laptop.



Carl on 23 November 2009
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
ironman said:
gurglesletch said:
How were they the first to use facebook? Facebook has always been usable from the ps3 browser

That's laughable. The PS3 browser is crappy. Also, the PS3 does not have a Facebook specific app yet, the 360 does. That is why MS can make such a claim.

Id rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. It provides a whole bunch of content that i cant access on my 360.

As for "Specific app". Yes, PS3 does have one... From the latest Firmware update.


So if you are on your 360 and need to browse, you turn off your 360 and turn on your ps3....? really? 

I just open my laptop.... maybe I'm odd.

That's not the point. I always have my computer on if im on my PS3/360, so i dont use it that much at all anyway.

But say, if i had my PS360 in the front room, and no computer in that room... It would be a very nice addition to have... IF i needed it.

As for iPlayer, it's still there for me.



                            

theprof00 on 23 November 2009
kowenicki said:
have you done the recent system update carl? where is my iplayer!?!? lol

you pretty much answered my point on the browser... i simply never use it other than for the occasional iplayer use.... well i did.... why has mine vanished? am i losing my mind?

you mean recently?



Carl on 23 November 2009

Yeah i've done the update.

try turn it off and back on?