So... a lot of 360 haters on this forum are idiots (according to destructiod).... nothing new...

Actually, one thing I'll add here - I think the main complaints were from PC players (or it least it felt like it to me).

On PC, a sequel will normally come out say 2 years later when there are newer graphics cards, and therefore it is expected the game will probably ship on a newer or greatly enhanced version of the engine.

Clearly, on consoles, this doesn't happen due to specs remaining static, and while games can be given a good boost (say Uncharted to Uncharted 2) you rarely see the level of change from say Unreal to Unreal 2, or Half Life to Half Life 2 on a console, and if you do it's normally because the first title was graphically weak in the first place.

Now, even on PC Valve have been bucking this trend since they released Half Life 2, sticking to refining Source rather than producing a whole new version of the engine, and I think L4D2 just picked up a lot of concern from PC players that the engine hadn't really changed much, that the community was being hurt too early in L4D's lifetime and so on.

So while I'm fine with the title releasing and will get it, I can understand that the complaints are understandable and not just whining for the sake of it.

It's funny. apparently people can't have opinions anymore without being attacked or insulted.

also, I love how maffka got banned for indirectly insulting, and yet starcraft didnt for directly insulting wholikeswood. -.-

isn't the internetz great?

As I said earlier, this probably happeened when the current HD consoles cme out and a whole bunch of people with low standards started gaming. Then people wonder why it's easier to make money on a console vs the PC.... You ca release the same half-assed crp year after year and make millions off of it. Try it on the PC and you will probably get chewed out ad go bankrupt very quickly.

Bravo. Certainly won't let that fat ass Xbot Jim Sterling intimidate me into saying what he want me to say. And anyone abusing someone else for just holding a different opinion is a bitch themselves.

So basically the author is saying that it's as much of a sequel to L4D as X-Com: Terror From The Deep was to UFO Defense?

I think Jim Sterling should drop this whole 'gaming journalism' gig and just give lessons on How-to-be-an-Asshole.

He'd make billions!!!

agrre one hundred percent

Sometimes you need to release a game, let it settle in and allow a few million people tell you what they liked and didn't like so you can adjust for the next title. It's just not always possible to get everything right on the first try. Delaying Left 4 Dead a year wouldn't have necessarily given them the time to add some of the added content of L4D2, because the ideas may have come from user feedback.

Which is funny cause even the developers of X-COM called it just n add-on with Aftermath being the sequel, which came out 4 years later if I remember.