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Munkeh111 on 21 November 2009

@ boutros, they have decreased the frequency recently, QfB was a mini adventure and about 25% the price (in the UK)



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Simulacrum on 21 November 2009

If Ratchet is milked say hello to Mario.



 

 

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Strategyking92 on 21 November 2009
Onyxmeth said:
Strategyking92 said:
Onyxmeth said:
This same exact argument can be used for Guitar Hero also. It still sells well and it reviews well. Is Guitar Hero being milked?

..... Yes. Hell yes.

 

Edit: when a game almost singlehandedly begins to slow down/oversaturate a genre, you know it's milked.

I would like to think the emergence of Rock Band had far more to do with the dilution of that form of rhythm game than anything else. When it was just Guitar Hero, things were going just fine. Then the fanbase split between two different franchises offering the exact same thing. Add the two back together and you get a healthier atmosphere. Hypothetically, if next year, 2K was able to make an NFL football game, and Madden's sales began to decline some, would you say Madden is diluting the genre, or the emergence of competition has split the football playing fanbase into two directions?

Secondly, there was or is no genre outside of Guitar Hero-like games. All other rhythm games are ridiculously niche. Guitar Hero-like gameplay is not the entire genre, just a subsect of it. There are plenty of other types of rhythm games out there that haven't sold much in the past and won't sell much in the future, and Guitar Hero has nothing to do with that.

well, I just wanted to see what sales have been, so I did some research on here:

Main rock band/guitar hero versions released each year;

XBOX 360 VERSIONS:

2007:

GH 3: 4.28 million (no spin offs on xbox this year)

rock band: 2.41 million

2008:

GH WT(4): 2.32 (spin offs released this year: aerosmith)

rock band 2: 1.79 (no spin offs)

Rock revolution: LOL (spin offs: thank god no)

2009:

GH 5: .59 (van halen, smash hits, metallica, DJ hero, band hero)

The beatles Rock band:  .57 (lego rock band)

 

portable versions:

guitar hero on tour: 3.04 million (ds) (june 08')

guitar hero on tour decades: 1.05 million (ds) (nov. 08')

guitar hero on tour modern hits: .18 million (ds) (june 09')

rock band unplugged: .12 million (psp, bundled) (june 09')

 

 

whther you believe activision itself has slowed it down or not, you have to admit there is a slowdown caused by something. It's not being split.. It's being eroded away. As for 2009 though, I do suppose there is still the holidays left. Still, activision has stacked this year with guitar hero games.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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outlawauron on 21 November 2009
Boutros said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Ratchet isn't milked. Their games get reviewed mid to high 80's, they sell well, and they're every 2 years, not yearly.

Game Title
US release date Platform
Ratchet & Clank November 7, 2002 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando November 11, 2003 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal November 2, 2004 PlayStation 2
Ratchet: Deadlocked October 25, 2005 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction October 23, 2007 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty August 21, 2008 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time October 27, 2009 PlayStation 3

Does the PSN release really count as a main title?



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Strategyking92 on 21 November 2009
outlawauron said:
Boutros said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Ratchet isn't milked. Their games get reviewed mid to high 80's, they sell well, and they're every 2 years, not yearly.

Game Title
 
US release date Platform
Ratchet & Clank November 7, 2002 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando November 11, 2003 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal November 2, 2004 PlayStation 2
Ratchet: Deadlocked October 25, 2005 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction October 23, 2007 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty August 21, 2008 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time October 27, 2009 PlayStation 3

Does the PSN release really count as a main title?

It was released on blu-ray as well.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive

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outlawauron on 22 November 2009
Strategyking92 said:
outlawauron said:
Boutros said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Ratchet isn't milked. Their games get reviewed mid to high 80's, they sell well, and they're every 2 years, not yearly.

Game Title
 
US release date Platform
Ratchet & Clank November 7, 2002 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando November 11, 2003 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal November 2, 2004 PlayStation 2
Ratchet: Deadlocked October 25, 2005 PlayStation 2
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction October 23, 2007 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty August 21, 2008 PlayStation 3
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time October 27, 2009 PlayStation 3

Does the PSN release really count as a main title?

It was released on blu-ray as well.

Not in good ole America, and we know it's the only region that actually matters.

I keed!



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Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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