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OurGunzNeverTire on 19 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:
We just have to wait and we will see what happens its all speculation. There is no evidence that you have to be the leader to survive 10years or more. Maybe just Sony Consoles can live 10 years maybe it has nothing to do with the leadership. Maybe 60-70 Million Consoles are enough. We had never a case in the past which was even similar to the case today. We have 3 Consoles and the strongest Console didnt even have half of the market. The weakes competitor has more potential sales power then the leader in the 16 bit gen. We just have to wait and we will see.


BTW: PS3>WII Japan again

Well PS3 reaching 60 million is no sure thing, as its trailing the PSP in sales, and the PSP has been on the market for about five years and still hasn't reached 60 million.

Also part of the problem of not being the market leader that results in why consoles don't survive, is because Consoles that aren't the market leader don't see support after the next gen is released, PS3 sees software support because third parties spread across the 360 and PS3, with multiplats, like Modern Warfare 2, once the next gen starts, the PS3 won't see the support of those games, unless the 360 also survives.

 

I actually metioned that PS3 would likely lead Wii until late november or early december, once NSMB Wii launches, that will change, fast, not to mention, FF13 will sell less than 2 million in Japan, so PS3 won't have as big a Holiday Boost as Wii will have

WOW............. your joking right.......... were would that support go hmmmm PC? Becasue it damn sure aint going to nintendo, nintendo wii is the only game console in HISTORY to be market share leader and have next to no 3rd party support. Last gen, you were a fool to not have your game on ps2, and the same for the ps1, and super nintendo, and nes, but not to put great games on wii...... is perfectly ok. If the 360 was to vanish next gen all that would happen is all the 3rd party support it saw would go to PS, and all its support form its commmunity would go to PS. You can't truly think a real gamer would op for a nintendo console over sony console if nintendo and sony were all to choose from, and they had to choose 1.



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Soap_McTavish on 19 November 2009

Still, they are still basing it off previous ps3 sales.

ioi is great, but he was way off on the ps3 sales.

He cannot have data for sale that have not happened yet.
NSBWii will not sell many consoles
FFXIII will sell anywhere from 400-600,000 ps3s.



Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
Soap_McTavish said:
Still, they are still basing it off previous ps3 sales.

ioi is great, but he was way off on the ps3 sales.

He cannot have data for sale that have not happened yet.
NSBWii will not sell many consoles
FFXIII will sell anywhere from 400-600,000 ps3s.

Why won't NSMB Wii sell consoles, and why will FF13?

There hasn't been a 2D Mario on a console in almost two decades, while FF13 has been anticipated for years, and they even had a demo of the game a while back in Japan for the PS3



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:
We just have to wait and we will see what happens its all speculation. There is no evidence that you have to be the leader to survive 10years or more. Maybe just Sony Consoles can live 10 years maybe it has nothing to do with the leadership. Maybe 60-70 Million Consoles are enough. We had never a case in the past which was even similar to the case today. We have 3 Consoles and the strongest Console didnt even have half of the market. The weakes competitor has more potential sales power then the leader in the 16 bit gen. We just have to wait and we will see.


BTW: PS3>WII Japan again

Well PS3 reaching 60 million is no sure thing, as its trailing the PSP in sales, and the PSP has been on the market for about five years and still hasn't reached 60 million.

Also part of the problem of not being the market leader that results in why consoles don't survive, is because Consoles that aren't the market leader don't see support after the next gen is released, PS3 sees software support because third parties spread across the 360 and PS3, with multiplats, like Modern Warfare 2, once the next gen starts, the PS3 won't see the support of those games, unless the 360 also survives.

 

I actually metioned that PS3 would likely lead Wii until late november or early december, once NSMB Wii launches, that will change, fast, not to mention, FF13 will sell less than 2 million in Japan, so PS3 won't have as big a Holiday Boost as Wii will have

WOW............. your joking right.......... were would that support go hmmmm PC? Becasue it damn sure aint going to nintendo, nintendo wii is the only game console in HISTORY to be market share leader and have next to no 3rd party support. Last gen, you were a fool to not have your game on ps2, and the same for the ps1, and super nintendo, and nes, but not to put great games on wii...... is perfectly ok. If the 360 was to vanish next gen all that would happen is all the 3rd party support it saw would go to PS, and all its support form its commmunity would go to PS. You can't truly think a real gamer would op for a nintendo console over sony console if nintendo and sony were all to choose from, and they had to choose 1.

It'll go to the next gen consoles, not the PS3, PS4 and 720 likely, but not the PS3



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Soap_McTavish on 19 November 2009

Why would it? Mario is Mario. If you like Mario, you got the console for galaxy. There has not been a single ff game on the ps3 yet. There has not been a single final fantasy game worth buying for like 5 years. I bought NSBWii and loved the hell out of it, but it's not a reason to own a console. The game is 400mb, it should be a download able title.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
Soap_McTavish said:
Why would it? Mario is Mario. If you like Mario, you got the console for galaxy. There has not been a single ff game on the ps3 yet. There has not been a single final fantasy game worth buying for like 5 years. I bought NSBWii and loved the hell out of it, but it's not a reason to own a console. The game is 400mb, it should be a download able title.

FF13 Demo on PS3 says hi

And if that's true, lol, then explain why NSMB DS has sold close to 20 million and Galaxy not even 10?  If you like Mario, you must have bought both Galaxy and NSMB DS right?

 

Or could it be, that 2D and 3D have different sales, *looks at charts*

 

OMG, they do

 

Better try again Mctavitch



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

hsrob on 19 November 2009
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:
We just have to wait and we will see what happens its all speculation. There is no evidence that you have to be the leader to survive 10years or more. Maybe just Sony Consoles can live 10 years maybe it has nothing to do with the leadership. Maybe 60-70 Million Consoles are enough. We had never a case in the past which was even similar to the case today. We have 3 Consoles and the strongest Console didnt even have half of the market. The weakes competitor has more potential sales power then the leader in the 16 bit gen. We just have to wait and we will see.


BTW: PS3>WII Japan again

Well PS3 reaching 60 million is no sure thing, as its trailing the PSP in sales, and the PSP has been on the market for about five years and still hasn't reached 60 million.

Also part of the problem of not being the market leader that results in why consoles don't survive, is because Consoles that aren't the market leader don't see support after the next gen is released, PS3 sees software support because third parties spread across the 360 and PS3, with multiplats, like Modern Warfare 2, once the next gen starts, the PS3 won't see the support of those games, unless the 360 also survives.

 

I actually metioned that PS3 would likely lead Wii until late november or early december, once NSMB Wii launches, that will change, fast, not to mention, FF13 will sell less than 2 million in Japan, so PS3 won't have as big a Holiday Boost as Wii will have

WOW............. your joking right.......... were would that support go hmmmm PC? Becasue it damn sure aint going to nintendo, nintendo wii is the only game console in HISTORY to be market share leader and have next to no 3rd party support. Last gen, you were a fool to not have your game on ps2, and the same for the ps1, and super nintendo, and nes, but not to put great games on wii...... is perfectly ok. If the 360 was to vanish next gen all that would happen is all the 3rd party support it saw would go to PS, and all its support form its commmunity would go to PS. You can't truly think a real gamer would op for a nintendo console over sony console if nintendo and sony were all to choose from, and they had to choose 1.

I was refraining from joining this but.....

The (gaming development) support he is talking about is going to be shifted to the new consoles and they will probably offset this risk by continuing some development on whatever current gen console it makes the most sense to continue to support.  If MS make the earliest exit to this generation then developers are going to have to choose to continue supporting either the PS3 or the Wii, I know where I'd be putting my money. On the other hand if Nintendo is first out of this generation then there would be twice as much incentive for developers to continue to develop for the HD console while shifting some resources to the new Nintendo console. 

Although it may never gain the stellar support of the PS2 at it's peak I would expect that developers are not going to make the mistake (again) of assuming the new Nintendo console will be a non-factor and it should get decent support from the outset as long as there isn't a yawning technical gap between it and what Sony and MS bring to the table. I don't think that is going to be anywhere near as much of an issue next gen as it was this one.



Soap_McTavish on 19 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Soap_McTavish said:
Why would it? Mario is Mario. If you like Mario, you got the console for galaxy. There has not been a single ff game on the ps3 yet. There has not been a single final fantasy game worth buying for like 5 years. I bought NSBWii and loved the hell out of it, but it's not a reason to own a console. The game is 400mb, it should be a download able title.

FF13 Demo on PS3 says hi

And if that's true, lol, then explain why NSMB DS has sold close to 20 million and Galaxy not even 10?  If you like Mario, you must have bought both Galaxy and NSMB DS right?

 

Or could it be, that 2D and 3D have different sales, *looks at charts*

 

OMG, they do

 

Better try again Mctavitch

Er. NSMB is on the DS.

I do not see how that is relevant.



Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
Soap_McTavish said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Soap_McTavish said:
Why would it? Mario is Mario. If you like Mario, you got the console for galaxy. There has not been a single ff game on the ps3 yet. There has not been a single final fantasy game worth buying for like 5 years. I bought NSBWii and loved the hell out of it, but it's not a reason to own a console. The game is 400mb, it should be a download able title.

FF13 Demo on PS3 says hi

And if that's true, lol, then explain why NSMB DS has sold close to 20 million and Galaxy not even 10?  If you like Mario, you must have bought both Galaxy and NSMB DS right?

 

Or could it be, that 2D and 3D have different sales, *looks at charts*

 

OMG, they do

 

Better try again Mctavitch

Er. NSMB is on the DS.

I do not see how that is relevant.

Mario is Mario is it not?  Or are you retracting your previous comment?



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Soap_McTavish on 19 November 2009

It's a different platform. It's a handheld. A handheld that fails horribly at anything other than 2d. It's a game that was incredibly easy and marketed at 7 year olds. I don't see how this game is similar at all.