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souixan said:
windbane said:
Sqrl said:
windbane said:

I'm considering just getting the PS2 version of GT3, but I'm hoping they release an update or an adaptor that finally completely works with the old PS2 guitars so I can use it for the PS3 game (rock band as well). The PS3 version of Rock Band is the only one that has a wireless guitar so I'm going with that version there.

I'm not sure why anyone would get the Wii version unless you don't have a PS2, but I guess if you have no previous version...enjoy your friend codes.


Probably because its cheaper, has rumble, is innately wireless, and has the built in speaker (via wii-mote)....but I don't know..I guess those aren't very good reasons =P /sarcasm

 

In any case does the PS2 version even have online play? I know the PS2 has network capabilities and all but how many people actually even use that? Seems like you could have a hard time finding folks to play on the PS2 version since there is no x-platform play.

edit: PS - Does anyone else find it a bit hard to believe that they would have online multiplayer but not offline multiplayer? They are the same mode! The only differnce is where the input comes from....


A Cheaper? Really? That's a reason? It's $5 cheaper for the bundle (which you have to buy for the Wii because it's the first version). That's $95 versus $90. The PS2 version is $80 (wait a second...that's not cheaper than the Wii version at all...) Yeah, real cheaper...now let's compare features...

B Now, which versions get downloadable songs? Yeah, not the Wii or PS2. That's the most important feature.


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A. Where are you buying it? I've seen PS2 for 89.99 Wii for 89.99 PS3/360 are both 99.99 unless you own a guitar so theoretically it -is- a cheaper base entry price. If you're going to compare prices, compare simmilar model not one without the guitar to one with as this will not affect everybody.

B. Wii could theoretically get downloadable songs with ease. Compression these days a song can take all of a few megs of space. ALL Wii's have memory not all PS2's do except memory card...

 


 I was looking at Amazon for every price listed.

Yeah, the Wii could theoretically get downloadable songs but it would be annoying with the limited space and the Wii could theoretically get rid of friend codes and have a lot more downloadable content but they haven't yet. 



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Sqrl said:
windbane said:

Cheaper? Really? That's a reason? It's $5 cheaper for the bundle (which you have to buy for the Wii because it's the first version). That's $95 versus $90. The PS2 version is $80 (wait a second...that's not cheaper than the Wii version at all...) Yeah, real cheaper...now let's compare features...

What exactly is that speaker on the wiimote going to do for me? The last I played Guitar Hero the sound came from the TV. And yes, the PS2 still has better online games to play than the Wii. I've played them for years. People use it. Guitar Hero 3 on the PS2 will be online according to amazon, and as for finding people to play...more people have Guitar Hero on the PS2 than any other system. Odd statement.

The PS3 and 360 versions also have wireless guitars, but somehow the Wii is more "innately" wireless? Ok, guys...I'd much rather not have to hook up to another controller. I'd say the PS3 and 360 versions are more wireless, unless you want rumble...on the Wiimote? Last I checked you used a guitar...

Now, which versions get downloadable songs? Yeah, not the Wii or PS2. That's the most important feature.

So like I said, I'm not sure why I would even buy the (more expensive) Wii version when I can just get the $45 game and use my old guitar. So, I would like the PS3 to support my old guitar as well so I can spend the $5 for better online and downloadable content for both Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band (which isn't even on the Wii and will be better because of drums and mic).

Oh, and I have a Wii. I guess if that's all you're stuck with, you'll still have fun...


Speaker: There is a battle mode where both players can be playing at the same time, the speaker will make it clear who is making a mistake. Its not a "wow omg gotta have it" feature but its a nice extra if its a toss up for someone otherwise.

Wireless: If you want a wireless guitar for the 360, PS2, or PS3 version you have to pay extra. The Wii version only comes wireless, hence my statement "innately wireless".

In any case, I thought you were buying the PS2 version, no? So why are you using the 360/PS3 wireless guitar as a reason to buy the PS2 version..that makes no sense. The fact that you already have a guitar and don't feel the need to pay for a new one I totally understand, but thats not the case for everyone.

BTW - The PS2 does have wireless guitars. Check Here

Rumble: This is a big feature for a lot of people, feel free to disagree but its true. Perhaps you are not one of those people but it doesn't mean that other folks don't want it.

Online: The original point you made here was that the Wii had to utilize friend codes...which is incorrect. You can play against random folks without friend codes, you only need the friend codes for your friends list etc...

The point that I was making about the PS2 is that its online community was always small so I wasn't sure if the PS2 version was going to have online support. I checked around and it seems that it will have online supported, but I am still curious how big that community is. If anyone has some hard numbers I would be interested. Its an interesting tidbit of info even beyond this discussion.

But its also worthing noting that the PS2 is at the end of its life. The here impact is that the PS2s online userbase is going to be shrinking not growing. And the Wii's online user base is going to be growing not shrinking. So folks looking to get enjoyment out of the game down the road should definitely account for that.

Price: The Wii version and PS2 versions are the same price if you get the basic set. And as I said the Wii version is cheaper than the 360 and PS3 packs even while including a wireless guitar.

To be fair though, someone who wants to buy the game new will not have the incentive of currently owning a PS2 guitar. And thus they would get more features out of the Wii version (aka rumble, wireless, speaker) for the same price as the PS2 version.

It is also worth mentioning that the 360 and PS3 versions have a big feature that neither the Wii nor the PS2 have however. And that is DLC.

Now if you want to get the PS2 version because you have guitars already. Great go for it. I am in no way trying to say that everyone should get the Wii version. But when you ask the thread topic why "anyone" would want to get the Wii version and you get several people who give you answers I think you should realise that many people do want the Wii version and that you're impression that there is no reason is only from your perspective.

Also, you can cut the crap with your passive agressive comments like "I guess if that's all you're stuck with, you'll still have fun... ". If you don't like the Wii version then don't buy it, but posting potshots like this just to get a rise out of folks is sad.

 

 

 

 


That speaker function is useless, imo, but that's mainly because I don't care for Guitar Hero's vs. mode.

I'm pretty sure all the new bundles are including the wireless guitar, so the Wii version is not more wireless than the others. The PS3 version of Rock Band is the only one that comes with a wireless Guitar, however.

Rumble? I'm not understanding this. Are you saying you hold the Wiimote at the same time as you play? Because it seems to me that every wireless Guitar could rumble as much as it wants to on its own. Does only the Wii wireless guitar rumble? It looked to me every version except I believe PS2 is the same guitar design.

I never said the Wii had to utitlize friend codes, but if you want to play with friends that's annoying. That's not a major point (just like the Speaker function), but it's there and annoying.

I'm willing to bet there will be more people playing it online on the PS2 than the Wii.

 

I agree with you the DLC is the deciding factor. That's why I was hoping to get a working PS2-to-PS3 USB adaptor to use my old (wired) guitar for GH3 and Rock Band, so even if I bought the bundle I'd have 2 guitars and my old one would not go to waste.

According to amazon, the PS2 version of the bundle is $5 cheaper than the Wii and there is no stand-alone Wii version since you have to get a guitar. Therefore I'd rathe Wii version last unless by come miracle they allow DLC and the PS2 never does (would be nice with hard drive support of the PS2).



Windbane, the Wiimote fits inside the guitar. It's what the guitar uses for wireless and why it has the speaker and rumble functions. This is widely available and well known common knowledge. And when you take up an angry and abrasive stance on something, demonstrating that you don't even know anything about the issue you're arguing over throws any credibility you might have had out the window.

For the sake of having people actually pay attention to what you have to say, don't be such a jerk, k?



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Windbane, quit making stuff up. The Wiimote does not 'dangle' from the guitar.

You really shouldn't comment on things you can't even take 10 seconds to look up. All it takes is one look at the Wii version to understand how the Wiimote fits neatly into the guitar.

BTW, the Wii version is #1 on Amazon right now. 



yeah, like piranas just jump on the one thing I didn't know.

My other points remain.  There is no need for rumble or a seperate speaker.  I'd much rather have the DLC or the cheaper PS2 version.

But hey, good job correcting me.  I love being called a jerk by a mod.


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The speaker function might be useless to you but like I said about rumble, it doesn't have to suit your tastes to be a feature that people want to have.

Everything I have seen (and I checked around before I posted last time to be sure) says the basic package for the PS3/360 is wired and if you want wireless you will probably be paying $110-$120. I would advise anyone getting the 360/PS3 version to get the wireless version as it is MUCH nicer. 

The fact that you thought you had to hold the Wii-mote while playing is a huge point in this debate, and the fact that you were so completely ignorant of the facts concerning the Wii bundle highlights that you were arguing against it without all the information. When someone is making passionate argument against something that they know nothing about in the video game world it usually has one reason. But I will leave others to come up with their own adjectives.

I will also point out that I never said DLC is the "deciding factor", I said it was only honest to mention it sense it is a very big feature for many people.

With that said I am not too worried about DLC, I am looking at the huge song list and wondering how long its going to take me to get through all of the songs that are already there! Not to mention beating it on all the different difficulties. But also I have been following the dev videos and they have mentioned that if Nintendo will work with them they have it so they can patch the game to handle DLC after launch. So if the game does well (and I suspect it will) we could still see DLC. But we shall see.

I suspect the reason for no standalone Wii version is that everyone needs a guitar to go with it. The game really is a lot more fun with the guitar than without. I'm not even sure if you can play the Wii version without the guitar.

As for no need for the rumble and the speaker...well sure you can play without them but they add another layer of depth and are a reason to buy that version. Perhaps you aren't interested in the features but please don't discount their importance to others. As it stands right now the Wii version could actually end up being the definitive version if the DLC comes through...but for now I will call that a big if since we haven't heard anything and I hate the idea of just trusting the devs word on it until they officially announce that its coming.

And one more feature I will add to the Wii version now that I have played it! The wii version also has motion control for the battle modes. Its how you activate your special abilities and stuff. At first I thought "meh this is sorta lame", but once I got into it a bit more (especially when battling Slash) it really gets you into act of acting and feeling like a Guitar Hero. It gets you off the edge of the couch and on your feet playing like a rock star. Great stuff and definitely a lot of fun, I'm glad I gave it a try =)

And finally, I will say that you have ZERO room to complain about being picked on. If you had been mistaken about a price or something small it would truly be no big deal. But the misconception you had about the Wii guitar/Wii-mote setup was fundamental to understanding the basics behind the Wii version. Not knowing that means you didn't even look for info, you just posted based on your assumptions.



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windbane said:

yeah, like piranas just jump on the one thing I didn't know.

My other points remain. There is no need for rumble or a seperate speaker. I'd much rather have the DLC or the cheaper PS2 version.

But hey, good job correcting me. I love being called a jerk by a mod.

There is no need for expensive DLC I won't buy or saving $5 on the PS2 version. I'd rather have motion control, speaker, rumble, and easy to use wireless.

Why would anyone buy any version BUT the Wii version?

See? I can make pointless baseless arguments just like you. If you don't want the Wii version, good for you. Don't buy it. No one is forcing you to. Don't go around saying your preferences are somehow correct and everyone elses is wrong.

 



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The speaker function really is amazing. All the missed note sounds go through the Wiimotes speaker instead of the TV. This may seem trivial at first, but eventually you will realize it is hard to hear the noise of the missed note over almost anything else. That means learning a song infront of a crowd is no longer an excercise in group cringing, but actually fun for everyone.



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the ps2 / and xbox 360 also had motion controls. i dont know for FACT that the PS3 does but i would be willing to bet it does.