So if you want to know why PC gamers are getting less and less attention, all they have to do is look in the mirror.

Even without the boycott, the number of pirated copies would be through the roof for a game like this. Yes, some Xbox 360 owners pirate. The system still sells games legitimately like hotcakes.

What an hilarious thread.

You traipsed round a few of the top torrent sites and looked at the number of times the torrent file had been downloaded and added them all up, right?

What about usenet? What about the people who downloaded the torrent and never got round to finishing it? What about all the other smaller sites? What about the big sites you're not "cool" enough to have an invite for?

Although in all honesty you'd be a lot cooler if you just downloaded of usenet as the people who know what they're doing do.

Yeah, you da man! Not!

^ Well the 360 still have 220.000 pirated downloads. So at the moment, i'd say they give developers more of an excuse to move development to the PS3 rather than to "consoles", if your point would claim any value. But yes, i understand what you're saying. Piracy on PC is a problem according to developers.

Still, i think it's not only the Pirate's to blame. I think the platform where games are distributed also needs a look-over, much like the Movie and Music industries are working on. Now services like iTunes, Spotify and Voddler exsists, that delivers a great service where users actully feel its worth coughing up money.

I mean... take MW2 as an example. They go out with info that MW2 for PC is going to get matchmaking instead of dedicated servers. And the PC community feels that this will never work. Had IW released a PC demo, alot of PC gamers might've found out that they could still make it work, i.e they go out and buy the game on release day. But in this case IW drops a bomb, the community is in outrage, and IW just continue on with their everyday life, and later blames the PC community for having a piracy problem.

Why would you say that?  In fact, I'd say the total pirated copies far exceeds the pirated downloads since most people once you download it once will just burn all the copies they need for friends.

Well you'll never receive a true number. What about all the DC and other P2P stuff? There's no actual DL No. This isn't facts, and internet isn't to be taken so serious. This is just an estimate of a few trackers and numbers off of certain sites. And im not online to be percieved as "cool" LOL!

I don't say it's correct to pirate games, I'm just saying that - in this case - it is a bit of an overreaction to make such a big fuzz about it. We're talking about Infinity Ward/Activision's Modern Warfare 2, which will probably one of the best selling games ever If they would be in a more troublesome situation, and, as already told, if they were a smaller, maybe independent company it'd be something different... though I'm thoroughly aware that most pirates lack that kind of thinking. But then again, one download more doesn't equal one lost sale. Many just wouldn't buy the game if they couldn't get it for free. Of course you can still call that immoral, but under these circumstances, it doesn't cause much harm at least.

Then I misinterpreted you're post sorry about that. Just sounded a little ignorant due to the measure you're using only being any use in a relative way to the piracy rate of other games measured on those sites.

There is no way to reliably extrapolate a genuine figure from the numbers you've obtained imo.

As long as something is available for free you are going to have a good number of people downloading it. It's been this way ever since the old Kazaa days. I think the ironic thing is is that  the outrage over DRM usually boils down to the lack of being able to pirate as efficiently. I know some will say otherwise, but honestly what it comes down to is "Let me torrent this game. Why can't I torrent it. (or Usenet it, if you want to be trendy), oh It has DRM ? Protest.  The PC gaming community is a dying breed only because 99 percent of games are pirated to no end.

The 360 point you have is sort of moot, only because 220k out of a lifetime 7-10 million unit seller is a paltry sum compared to the PC version, which might hit 2 million lifetime if it is lucky. Do you know what the difference is? You need (system link aside) Xbox live to play with other 360 owners. You play by their rules. On the PC, pirates can usually get by unscathed. That is why when this "outrage" happened over a lack of private servers , I had to laugh a little bit.

The most hilarious thing about pirates? When you ask them why they do it, the answer is either "Because I can" or a masked version of "Because I Can".

What do u mean? Is this harder to pirate than let's say Assassin's Creed?

I can almost taste that ad-ware, malware, spyware, and those trojans.