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richardhutnik said:

Check this out:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2?q=modern%20warfare

Metacritc Meta Score: 8.9

User score: 1.4 (as of this moment).

Seriously people.  WTF?  You have collectively shown yourself to not know a blasted clue about games, and care to throw out all sane discernment over an axe to grind.

And when a game gets a lower user rating than Big Rigs, we have a problem:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/bigrigsovertheroadracing?q=big%20rigs

Come on, 3.5 out of 10 there, while MW2 is less than a 2?

 

Thye vast majority of PC gamers buy their games for multiplayer purposes only. We really dont care about single player experiences unless we are buying a specific genre of game or it looks really good. COD has always been a multiplayer first, single player second, franchise. The fact they screwed PC gamers with no dedicated PC servers for multiplayer destroyed PC gamers enjoyment of the game.



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Boutros said:
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jefforange89 said:
Ail said:
Issue is that all the PC gamers have been doing is bitch about games recently( Left4Dead 2, Starcraft 2, MW2, Rage).
If they were enthusiasts about some game that would give the publishers some hints that there is some hope in the future, but as it is all they are doing is complaining and just reinforcing development studios in the idea that focusing on consoles is the right idea ( and even ValVe gets this with Left4Dead).

I'm sorry?

If all of a sudden COD7 PS360 were to cost +20$, while, say, removing online play (and retaining only a short single player campaign), would you be pissed?

If you had to buy three separate full-priced discs for the entire FFXIII, would you be pissed?

If God of War 3 came with only half the game on the disc, and then the second half was promised in free DLC, but then later decided to be packaged into separate full-priced disc, would you be pissed?

 

Then again, you probably wouldn't - looking at the things that go on with console games (paying for p2p online, whoring out sequals to no end, releasing incomplete games and charging for DLC within weeks of release to complete them), most people would probably go along with it - PS360 gamers, especially 360 gamers, are used to this kind of nonsense, and seem to gladly put up with it.

PC gamers, on the other hand, typically have higher standards.

Thanks for this post, sometimes hyperbole is the only thing you can use to get through to the closed-minded.

 

Honestly, the users on this board need to stop flaming PC fans because we're upset with Modern Warfare 2. We're getting charged more for what we view as an inferior product. How am I going to find a favorite server where I can get to be familiar with 30-50 people when every fucking game I'm playing with random people? How am I going to save money to afford my PC rigs if I'm paying $10 more for games when publishers don't owe a royalty to console manufacturers? They might as well start charging me just to play MW2 online, or maybe they're saving that for MW3.

 

Also, those who are flaming PC users for giving such low scores need to get it through their heads that it's NOT about score accuracy, it's about sending a loud and clear message to Activision. Thus far, PC owners have pleasantly surprised me, as I expected the boycott to never work, but it's pretty clear that more PC owners are going to be spiteful than go back on their word and buy the game. This is exactly the response we need to avoid paying $60 for every goddamn game we buy.

I kind of disagree with most of what you said. You just have to look at my other posts if you want to know why.

And it's not ok (whatever kind of message you're trying to give) for PC owners to give a low score to the PS3/360 version. That's pretty much all I'm trying to say.

Lol, I have to look at your other posts? Your posts have been one-dimensional throughout this entire thread, claiming that the game isn't a bad game and that it doesn't deserve those low scores. You haven't addressed ANY of the issues I bring up in my post, so honestly, looking at your other posts doesn't tell me why you disagree, it just tells me that you like to whine about whiners. Like I said, it's not about giving a good game a score it doesn't deserve, it's about sending a message to Activision that a large portion of PC gamers aren't going to put up with their bullshit.

 

While I agree that there's no reason for PC owners to take it out on the console iterations, they're still sending a message.

Why is it so hard to have a discussion? Y'all taking it so badly. We are not whining we are just discussing. PC discussion.

 

Anyway the message you are trying to share is rather useless. They decided to concentrate the franchise on consoles and console owners are happy of the product. They don't have to endure the PC version problems.

What do you mean by 'problems'?

If by problems you mean bugs and such, then dampening the PC version sure hasn't helped the PS3 version which has had 2 patches already and growing pains with their content servers or whatever they're called.

Aaaarrrgghhh!

I don't know! I haven't played the game yet! lol

Why are you complaining if there's no problems then?!

I'm just very neutral as I have not played nor seen any footage of the game yet. And being neutral gives me a more objective view point of the situation.

I've merely rented the PS3 version for a few days. I'm on the side upset against Infinity Ward and their decisions for the PC version so while I'd much rather be playing this game with a keyboard/mouse, I'm just going to settle for this rental. I'm also against the extreme measures of sabatoging reviews and such, but I don't have a problem with informing potential customers through the reviews since I shop at places like Amazon and newegg frequently and that's how I'm going to make my buying decisions.

My complaints against the PC version is that they're taking what was already something that worked well and removed and/or changed it and for the worse in my opinion. I feel that the feeling of community with dedicated servers is removed, good latencies could be more of a rarity, modding is gone (so no maps or other content from talented people), and the gameplay is limited to 9 vs 9. Then on top of all that, they want to charge us $10 more. This is where people are saying that they're turning the PC version into the console version.

So then compare that to another PC game like Team Fortress 2. There are dediacted servers so you can view a server list and get the best pings (I can get into servers where my ping is 20ms or lower). There is a sense of community in that you can continue to join a server and constantly play with the same people from the server without having to put people on friends lists or joining parties (like a group hangout or something). There's custom content so you can get some great things coming from the community including maps (some are even found by the developers and included in official updates) and server tweaks like upping the max player count to 32. If stuff like this is standard in your games, I think fans of PC gaming are within reason to be upset at the changes of Modern Warfare 2.

 



I loved COD4 but will not touch MW2 with a barge pole, with the exception of personal threats no amount of hatred towards IW and Activision is bad.



IMO the vast majority of Pc gamers on vgchartz think that MW2 for consoles PS3/X360 is great addition to the series as its multiplayer is as it was always on consoles but us as PC gamers we have long standing standards on PC multiplayer games yes MW2 has SP but most of us waited for great multiplayer experience that we didin't get ant to those that downgraded the ps3/x360 score on meta was immature yet they just wanted to show how disappointed they where by pc version and yes it was stupid of them to do that .



richardhutnik said:

Check this out:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2?q=modern%20warfare

Metacritc Meta Score: 8.9

User score: 1.4 (as of this moment).

Seriously people.  WTF?  You have collectively shown yourself to not know a blasted clue about games, and care to throw out all sane discernment over an axe to grind.

And when a game gets a lower user rating than Big Rigs, we have a problem:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/bigrigsovertheroadracing?q=big%20rigs

Come on, 3.5 out of 10 there, while MW2 is less than a 2?

When people hate a game on principle, they rank it lower than it deserves by a long shot.

 

Note some of the people insulting it in this very forum - you can go to forums a few weeks ago where they state that they WILL NOT buy the game due to missing features. And yet here they are giving their harsh reviews/defense of the reviews. So either they pirated a copy(likely) or opted to just bash it without getting to play it. And when they decide to bash it without playing it, why take into account anything good? No dedicated servers makes them angry, so the game gets rated as if it has SNES graphics and a set of glitches that render it unplayable... Rather than it being rated as a solid game with some missing features.

Don't let it bug you. Activision will still laugh all the way to the bank, and ignore them. You should too.



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I see where PC gamers are coming from, they are used to higher standards.



vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

Please tell me how this is a good game deserving of a more than 5. I'll say hwhy it doesn't.

Single-player is lackluster comapred to modern games, it's worse than the first MW.

Multi-player is just shitty, period, it's jsut crap and nearly unplayable.

What's your reason for scoring it highly?

I didn't make any judgment on the game itself simply because I haven't played it yet but people seems to love it overall.

It's possible that you don't like the game but that doesn't mean the game is bad. You have to look at the majority and it seems you're a minority.

The SP in MW was awesome and even though the SP in MW2 is not as good, I am sure it's still good enough.

Console players will like a pile of crap if it had a gun and could move and would claim it wasa the best thing ever to happen to video games.

I need actual reasons why the game DOESN'T suck. So far you have none.

Also good enough doesn't cut it, it has to be better or this game might as well not have released, what good is i to me if I had a better game years ago?

I believe we have the epitome of PC elitist. 



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richardhutnik said:

Check this out:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/modernwarfare2?q=modern%20warfare

Metacritc Meta Score: 8.9

User score: 1.4 (as of this moment).

Seriously people.  WTF?  You have collectively shown yourself to not know a blasted clue about games, and care to throw out all sane discernment over an axe to grind.

And when a game gets a lower user rating than Big Rigs, we have a problem:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/bigrigsovertheroadracing?q=big%20rigs

Come on, 3.5 out of 10 there, while MW2 is less than a 2?

 

You're right, it doesn't deserve that low of a score...

But IW effectively stabbed their fanbase in the back.  They're reaping what they sowed.



Jesus, who gives a fuck about Metacritic scores? Aside from the management at games publishers, of course.



Mudface said:
Jesus, who gives a fuck about Metacritic scores? Aside from the management at games publishers, of course.

Well, seeing that this thread was created and seeing the usual banter about a game's metacritic score being A, AA, or AAA and such.

 

:P