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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Here's your answer EA: Make better games on the Wii.

And they shouldn't be complaining. Their games are some of the better selling third party games on the Wii. I swear, their only complaining because they didn't make enough profit to cover their losses.

Well yeah.  That's why they're complaing.  If you'll notice he never actually says the wii costs them money.  Just it's not doing as well as they hoped, you know to fund all the HD games.  It was EA who had that strategy right?



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Kasz216 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Here's your answer EA: Make better games on the Wii.

And they shouldn't be complaining. Their games are some of the better selling third party games on the Wii. I swear, their only complaining because they didn't make enough profit to cover their losses.

Well yeah.  That's why they're complaing.  If you'll notice he never actually says the wii costs them money.  Just it's not doing as well as they hoped, you know to fund all the HD games.  It was EA who had that strategy right?

They also don't mention that either.



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mortono said:
Here's the big strategy with selling games on the Wii. It's actually very simple:

Copy Nintendo.

What's EA's highest selling Wii game? EA Active. A very good example of copying Nintendo.

What is the highest selling third-party game? Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. They even went so far as to get Mario characters into the game.

What kind of third party games sell on the Wii? Games that copy Wii Sports and Wii Play.

I'm not kidding, this is the best strategy. Find out what Nintendo is doing next and copy them.

EA has already made two Mario Kart clones (Nascar and MySims Racing) and some Wii Sports type (Playground, MySims Party) .   This is a losing formula (at least for EA).   For one because you can't compare to the original and two because everyone else is doing it and the market is now way oversaturated with mediocore Nintendo clones.   Look at TNMT a Brawl clone, also selling poorly despite being a decent fighter.  Why buy it if you can buy or own Brawl? 

Sport Active isn't really a Wii Fit clone (barely even uses the board), it's a good example of looking at Nintendo's general direction and one upping them.



 

outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Here's your answer EA: Make better games on the Wii.

And they shouldn't be complaining. Their games are some of the better selling third party games on the Wii. I swear, their only complaining because they didn't make enough profit to cover their losses.

Well yeah.  That's why they're complaing.  If you'll notice he never actually says the wii costs them money.  Just it's not doing as well as they hoped, you know to fund all the HD games.  It was EA who had that strategy right?

They also don't mention that either.

They don't mention it, but if you go back and read the rest of the thread, its pretty much the conclusion the rest of us have made.

In any case, they shouldn't be complaining about the Wii games 'not meeting expectations' when they're doing just fine on the Wii.  Where's their whining about their 360 or PS3 games not meeting expectations?  Or did they just expect many of them to sell badly (and many of them sell less than their Wii counterparts).

Its just another third party trying to use the Wii as a moneymaker AND a scapegoat for all that's wrong in the industry.



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Gamerace said:
mortono said:
Here's the big strategy with selling games on the Wii. It's actually very simple:

Copy Nintendo.

What's EA's highest selling Wii game? EA Active. A very good example of copying Nintendo.

What is the highest selling third-party game? Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. They even went so far as to get Mario characters into the game.

What kind of third party games sell on the Wii? Games that copy Wii Sports and Wii Play.

I'm not kidding, this is the best strategy. Find out what Nintendo is doing next and copy them.

EA has already made two Mario Kart clones (Nascar and MySims Racing) and some Wii Sports type (Playground, MySims Party) .   This is a losing formula (at least for EA).   For one because you can't compare to the original and two because everyone else is doing it and the market is now way oversaturated with mediocore Nintendo clones.   Look at TNMT a Brawl clone, also selling poorly despite being a decent fighter.  Why buy it if you can buy or own Brawl? 

Sport Active isn't really a Wii Fit clone (barely even uses the board), it's a good example of looking at Nintendo's general direction and one upping them.

I was mostly joking with that post. It just seems like this is all companies can really do or think of with the Wii, even though it's not.

Honestly the best strategy would be innovating within the market that Nintendo has handed them. Of course, there's no way they would want to take this kind of risk!

So the next best step is copying the success of Nintendo, which has resulted in numerous Sports, Fitness, and Minigame packages that have mostly been successful (although it is true this market is either becoming oversaturated or is just plain losing steam). Eventually they'll have to copy Wii Vitality I guess.



EA should stop giving Wii owners watered down versions of games like Madden and Dead Space.. Wii owners want a grown up Madden not a diaper baby version, Wii owners want a TPS game NOT a rail game. Honestly when I fist read about these games I could tell right away that they would fail.



Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Here's your answer EA: Make better games on the Wii.

And they shouldn't be complaining. Their games are some of the better selling third party games on the Wii. I swear, their only complaining because they didn't make enough profit to cover their losses.

Well yeah.  That's why they're complaing.  If you'll notice he never actually says the wii costs them money.  Just it's not doing as well as they hoped, you know to fund all the HD games.  It was EA who had that strategy right?

They also don't mention that either.

They don't mention it, but if you go back and read the rest of the thread, its pretty much the conclusion the rest of us have made.

In any case, they shouldn't be complaining about the Wii games 'not meeting expectations' when they're doing just fine on the Wii.  Where's their whining about their 360 or PS3 games not meeting expectations?  Or did they just expect many of them to sell badly (and many of them sell less than their Wii counterparts).

Its just another third party trying to use the Wii as a moneymaker AND a scapegoat for all that's wrong in the industry.

Well, see, they do call out when their HD games sell under expectations. They did last year when Mirror's Edge and Dead Space both started under expectations.



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outlawauron said:

Well, see, they do call out when their HD games sell under expectations. They did last year when Mirror's Edge and Dead Space both started under expectations.

Considering both those games sold over a million, once again, they shouldn't be complaining.  Of course, they probably WANTED those games to sell more.  But that's the problem.  EA spends way too much money producing its games and expects all its games to sell more then they do.



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

Well, see, they do call out when their HD games sell under expectations. They did last year when Mirror's Edge and Dead Space both started under expectations.

Considering both those games sold over a million, once again, they shouldn't be complaining.  Of course, they probably WANTED those games to sell more.  But that's the problem.  EA spends way too much money producing its games and expects all its games to sell more then they do.

They made those comments well before either game came close to a million. They has good legs and managed to sell well in the end due to positive word of mouth.



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