The games been out for 3 weeks, VGC has 2 weeks of data up, and you have to take into account used game sales.

people have 2 xbox in a house with different users. numbers are in line.

@libellule

I think that it's still 2D texturing being applied directly to the polygons which comprises the specific "hit" zone of the car model. Bear in mind that 3D texturing would mean that the entire model has to be reshaped and all the polygons be recalculated to fit the texture itself. I don't think any console has the GPU and CPU to pull that out.

it looks so real. awesome.

But even thats pushing it. Same as resales. I use Halo 3 as an example because it's number 1 console played game online for Live. yet it works out even with muli users for one household 10% of the copies sold play online. With 670,000 users actually signed in on 7/11 even saying that 50% of the people who bought a copy of the game have gone online with it that would make it 1.3 million. What your saying is the numbers are correct and FM3 has about a 70% online player attach rate. The biggest by over 50%!

Its a new game. The first buyers are the most hardcore. It'll have a higher user % online new. 360 also prides itself on online functionality and subscribers. You dont think there are people out there who bought the game do to hype went online and realized they didnt like racers and someone else bought it used and went online? Or that families have more than one xbox and they share the game? Or friends let friends barrow it? You dont think next week NA will recieve the same sales as Eu's 2nd week after recieving similiar first? You dont think EU and Japan wont have another 100k week? I think it'll be at 920k with last weeks numbers added You say there are 670k users on? Your game didnt live up to the hype. It didnt meet expectations. Relative to the hype it was a flop. Move on.

i jizzed in my pants

I didnt mention hype etc. I was reffering to attach rates. Which by even your definition makes it THE most played game online of any launch against copies sold. As for the quailty of the game you speak of I know for a fact that it's not a flop. As it's been giving the title of best racer ever by nearly all reviews. But the important one is InsideSimRacing. :)

Anyway maybe we should take this to another thread. This is supposed to be about GT5. And before anyone else wonders. No I dindt bring FM3 into this thread.

@CGI

This thread has been a nice discussion of the GT5 videos shown at SEMA, but the last posts have pratically destroyed it. It's always the same for every GT5 thread:

GT5 video posted > people praising > people not praising, saying competition is better > pointless argumentation of known factors.

It will be like this, even after the release of GT5. Just as long as some members don't take cheap shots at GT5 this can be kept civil. The same goes for every Forza thread and when Forza is referred on a GT thread, which hopefully can be kept to a minimal.

@CGI

Hopefully things will calm from now on ;). Also, what is your opinion about these new videos?