By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Why is a high-def Wii needed?

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Most people don't care if its SD or HD, my parents have an HD big screen LCD and they think Wii graphics are amazing

That's true, when you have nothing to compare it to, we all thought PSone graphics were a blessing, and now they are absolutely horrid.



 

mM
Around the Network
leo-j said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
leo-j said:
Siko1989 said:
really from the start of this gen alot of people never really owned an HDTV, thats why nintendo stuck with SD, whats wrong with that? its called business you make more money doing it.

That is completely false

Did you actually read the comment? You just claimed there were 0 people who hadn't owned and HDTV back then.

Did you read the comment? He said not many people had an HD TV, when a large percentage of the population already had an HD TV in late 2006.

Not the majority



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
leo-j said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
leo-j said:
Siko1989 said:
really from the start of this gen alot of people never really owned an HDTV, thats why nintendo stuck with SD, whats wrong with that? its called business you make more money doing it.

That is completely false

Did you actually read the comment? You just claimed there were 0 people who hadn't owned and HDTV back then.

Did you read the comment? He said not many people had an HD TV, when a large percentage of the population already had an HD TV in late 2006.

Not the majority

A large percentage, not the majority but a very large percentage in 2006, today I believe 70% of U.S households if not more own an HD TV.



 

mM
leo-j said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
leo-j said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
leo-j said:
Siko1989 said:
really from the start of this gen alot of people never really owned an HDTV, thats why nintendo stuck with SD, whats wrong with that? its called business you make more money doing it.

That is completely false

Did you actually read the comment? You just claimed there were 0 people who hadn't owned and HDTV back then.

Did you read the comment? He said not many people had an HD TV, when a large percentage of the population already had an HD TV in late 2006.

Not the majority

A large percentage, not the majority but a very large percentage in 2006, today I believe 70% of U.S households if not more own an HD TV.

Where the hell did you get that number? Seriously, where the hell did you get that? The HDTV penetration is barely at 50% now (since the recession slowed the adoption rate momentum, from the very reports of all the companies selling them). There is no way it could have been the majority of households back then.

If it was, Nintendo would have gone HD, as there would have been an audience.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

68soul said:


Anyway, what is done is done, and it won't change anymore, so everything i may say about this is useless... but i hope that their next console will be a really awesome one, in all aspects, this time... to please everyone, and be treated with respect by anyone: no more flame wars for an entire gen, please... :)

And all the best games on the Nintendo's console, too...  :)

Ha! Good one. *nudge*

 

leo-j, I think the PS1 is a bad example. It aged bad because the first 3D games, well, simply look like crap. They always have. Honestly, one of the reasons I never got a PS1 was because I couldn't stand the graphics. Many of its games look worse than SNES stuff (polished 2D).

Take the DS, for example. Most people don't seem to have a problem with it, even while it competes with the PSP, which is far more powerful (an entire gen ahead). As long as one picks a graphic style that is advantageous to the hardware (as opposed to always striving for realism), most people won't mind.



Around the Network
KylieDog said:
leo-j said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
leo-j said:
Siko1989 said:
really from the start of this gen alot of people never really owned an HDTV, thats why nintendo stuck with SD, whats wrong with that? its called business you make more money doing it.

That is completely false

Did you actually read the comment? You just claimed there were 0 people who hadn't owned and HDTV back then.

Did you read the comment? He said not many people had an HD TV, when a large percentage of the population already had an HD TV in late 2006.

 

No they didn't.  Especially in areas like Europe.  Most people didn't have much of a reason to buy a HD TV back then, the majority of sales probably came from people needing to replace old TVs which isn't a steady stream.

 

This article from the biginning of the year (that is 2009) puts HDTV penetration in the US (which is ahead of many other countries) at only 25-30%, so in 2006 it was probably a lot smaller, and anything but 'large'.

 

I think some developer for a HD game recently said something like 40% of people actually play in HD.

Mark Reign of Epic recently said about half of Gears players played it on HDTVs. Also around the time, the Elite 360 dropped HDMI cable packaging.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Wii HD is needed so that we HDTV owners can further enjoy our HDtv's, cuz thus far wii's graphics just won't do...last generation those graphics were good, in fact they were excellent but times change and so do standards...the new visual standard is that of HD consoles...but hey this is my opinion as a HDtv owner.

I'm sure there will be those who still still use their tube tv's who will have an opinion contrary to mine, and that I understand, what I don't understand is some who have a HDtv, and yet are against Wii HD, I mean with a stance like that they may have aswell just stayed with their old tube tv, at least then they have a leg to stand on when they talk...just saying.

my 2 cents.



Serious_frusting said:
to be honest Nintendo made a huge mistake not making the Wii HD.

If they did it for the Wii's orig release then the would be no such thing as a HD war and the Wii would be sitting on sales that would make the DS look average.

And i really believe that. It would have had the hardcore and casuals. batman AA, Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy 13, Tekken 6 and other big 3rd party games aswell as Nintendo's first party all on the little white box.

It would have been killer

The reason Nintendo didn't put in HD is because it was too expensive. The price would have been to much for the mainstream audience. Then the wii would have ended up like the PS3 - forced to do painful pricecuts. Besides HD penetration is not even that big now. I sure wasn't then.

What makes you think adding (at least) 100 dollar to the launch price of the wii would have been succesfull?



In the wilderness we go alone with our new knowledge and strength.

I agree with Stefan. Nintendo is firmly a gaming hardware company that specializes in console gaming at a competitive, affordable price for parents. $250 US was the right sweet spot. Nintendo doesn't use the razor and blades business model. They don't sell their hardware at a loss. And if you want a $250 console that's not sold at a loss in 2006, it can't be HD. Nintendo made the right choice. It sucks for so-called core gamers that the Wii doesn't have stronger third-party support but Nintendo is making the most profit and they have the largest market share so they don't really need more of that so-called core gamer pie. I endorsed Nintendo right at the start of the generation because of their competitive price point and their focus on gaming (as opposed to Blu-Ray and other extras). But after seeing the third-party support go mostly to the HD consoles, I decided to get a HD console.



All the higher ups, from Miyamoto to Iwata, have been hinting that their next console will be featuring 'HD' graphics. Even Miyamoto himself has stated he hopes the next console will go in that direction as well as it will have graphics 'in better competition to its competitors'.

But as for releasing a HD 'Wii', its just not going to happen. Its been dismissed by everyone, including Reggie just 2 days ago. And its pretty clear why. Even if they released a new Wii, it wouldn't change their position with third parties. They need to work on the software end, not the hardware. And if Third Parties don't want to work on the Wii altogether, then they just need to bring out a new console sooner, all the while making bank off the current Wii.



Six upcoming games you should look into: