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darthdevidem01 on 07 November 2009
Reasonable said:
libellule said:
Reasonable said:
What are GT5:P sales? We have the estimate here, but in theory it's low because it doesn't include PSN.

OT - it could, but likely not by much. GT5 sales are likely to be way ahead of Forza 3 though, so for those who sales matter to in arguments its very probably going to be the case that GT5 is going to be proclaimed the clear winner.

Also, a lot depends on the holidays. I could see Forza 3 actually getting squeezed with MW2, etc. so it might end up behind Gt5:P. Boy, if that happens the Turn 10 guys are going to be spitting.

Either way GT5/Forza 3 flame fests and arguments are sure to continue.


the problem is that THERE IS A FM3 bundle but ... it is not everywhere and, for example, it is not in France

while the MW2 bundle is EVERYWHERE

MS doesn't seem to understand FM3 was their biggest weapon to get back europe OR there are still focusing too much on the FPS/online crowd that is mainly concentrated on ... NA !

Well, I do feel Forza 3 released a little to close to MW2 on 360, particularly given MS has got behind that title.  I think MS is always drawn towards defending its position with 360 in America and getting behind big franchises, as it did with GTA 4, which I think does hurt titles like Forza 3, which could actually help the console get better penetration to new users than another FPS (no matter how big).

Particularly in Europe I'm surprised how little hype there is behind Forza 3, while interest in GT5 is now starting to ramp up.  If I was MS I'd get behind MW2 in US, but I'd actually be making Forza 3 and Forza 3 bundles my big push before GT5 lands - after that I think the racing demographic is going to be tied up in PS3.

I agree completely

After GT5 lands, it'll be too late to do anything though



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OctaBech on 07 November 2009
MetalGearSolid_4ever said:
OctaBech said:
MetalGearSolid_4ever said:

ArcticGabe said:
You mean Forza 3 is going to end up sold less than Forza 2? Yeah

Well, it's like
Froza 3> Killzone 2 KZ2 First Week > Forza 3 First week
Halo>GT

Halo series total sales Approximated to the HIGHER million Value - Halo 7 million + Halo2 9 million + Halo3 11 million = 27 million

27/3 ---> Average Halo game sells 9 million

(too early to judge ODST, but I doubt it will sell 9 million)

GT series total sales 52million. ROFL ROFL ROFL !

Main 4 games, approximated to the Lower million value - 10

GT 10 million (although its closer to 11 I'm using lower values to show just how HUGE this is) + GT2 9 million + GT3 14 (again close to 15) + GT4 10 million = 43 million

43/4 ---> 10.75 average.

Halo won't be as big as GT as average will go down due to ODST lackluster sales. GT5 will sell atleast 9 million and DESTROY Forza 3 sales.

You have a time machine ? How is the future ? That is just trollish. Spongebob avatar makes it even worse. Aren't you the guy who said Demon's Souls 2nd week was "Ouch" in the game page ? In fact you seem to pop up quite commonly in the PS3 game pages saying how disappointing the sales are.

:)

See the red spongebob ? Read that well.

 

Dunno if it's fair to include a quick cash in like OSDT when ot including Prologue.

I didnt include ODST or Prologue.

But ODST is a main game of the franchise ? GT5P is not even a full game - not even 100 cars ?

That still doesn't change the fact that GT series > Halo series in sales.

I never disputed your point, I'd even agree because GT games to my  recollection never were given away for free even when bundled(it should be said that this tactic helped expanding Halo's future market in record time).

But ODST is a duck(expansion) and shouldn't be considered as anything else, unless one expect Reach to do the same numbers.. Perhaps you are just teasing those who hailed it as a separate instalment?



MetalGearSolid_4ever on 07 November 2009
OctaBech said:
MetalGearSolid_4ever said:
OctaBech said:
MetalGearSolid_4ever said:

ArcticGabe said:
You mean Forza 3 is going to end up sold less than Forza 2? Yeah

Well, it's like
Froza 3> Killzone 2 KZ2 First Week > Forza 3 First week
Halo>GT

Halo series total sales Approximated to the HIGHER million Value - Halo 7 million + Halo2 9 million + Halo3 11 million = 27 million

27/3 ---> Average Halo game sells 9 million

(too early to judge ODST, but I doubt it will sell 9 million)

GT series total sales 52million. ROFL ROFL ROFL !

Main 4 games, approximated to the Lower million value - 10

GT 10 million (although its closer to 11 I'm using lower values to show just how HUGE this is) + GT2 9 million + GT3 14 (again close to 15) + GT4 10 million = 43 million

43/4 ---> 10.75 average.

Halo won't be as big as GT as average will go down due to ODST lackluster sales. GT5 will sell atleast 9 million and DESTROY Forza 3 sales.

You have a time machine ? How is the future ? That is just trollish. Spongebob avatar makes it even worse. Aren't you the guy who said Demon's Souls 2nd week was "Ouch" in the game page ? In fact you seem to pop up quite commonly in the PS3 game pages saying how disappointing the sales are.

:)

See the red spongebob ? Read that well.

 

Dunno if it's fair to include a quick cash in like OSDT when ot including Prologue.

I didnt include ODST or Prologue.

But ODST is a main game of the franchise ? GT5P is not even a full game - not even 100 cars ?

That still doesn't change the fact that GT series > Halo series in sales.

I never disputed your point, I'd even agree because GT games to my  recollection never were given away for free even when bundled(it should be said that this tactic helped expanding Halo's future market in record time).

But ODST is a duck(expansion) and shouldn't be considered as anything else, unless one expect Reach to do the same numbers.. Perhaps you are just teasing those who hailed it as a separate instalment?

No I am not teasing anyone. Maybe we'll count out sales of ODST then.

If Reach doesn't sell as well as Halo 3, it will be because of MS milking the franchise.

I'm not sure if GT5 would sell 10 million though.



-ku- on 07 November 2009

We're forgetting that GT5P has around 4 million with download sales. and that Forza is already underselling GT5P I'd say in 3 months will be dropped to a 5-15k weekly buy rate this is clearly the first major flop for 360



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tedsteriscool on 07 November 2009
-ku- said:
We're forgetting that GT5P has around 4 million with download sales. and that Forza is already underselling GT5P I'd say in 3 months will be dropped to a 5-15k weekly buy rate this is clearly the first major flop for 360

Too Human? (+ JRPGs)?



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libellule on 07 November 2009

it seems some people continue to believe that GT5 will perform as good as GT1/2/3/4

STOP DREAMING !!!

Sure, it will sell like hot cake BUT it will sell less than during the PS2 era
remember not everybody has a PS3 ... we are not in the PS2 era

like always : do not look at the past !



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Hus on 07 November 2009
And you forget that since Gtlibellule said:
it seems some people continue to believe that GT5 will perform as good as GT1/2/3/4

STOP DREAMING !!!

Sure, it will sell like hot cake BUT it will sell less than during the PS2 era
remember not everybody has a PS3 ... we are not in the PS2 era

like always : do not look at the past !

Stop being delusional then.

Since day one GT was a reason to own a PS console and nothing has changed.  You are right dont look at the past casue GT5 will out sale all previous GT games and do it on a smaller used base.  Half of vg posters will then combust into flames from rage. 

I love seeing people be so wrong as many on vgc.   Ahh good times.



Notorius.A.i.G on 07 November 2009

It could but I doubt it. Gran Turismo is too beast when it comes to sales.



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BMaker11 on 07 November 2009
bonkers555 said:
LMAO on people saying Forza 3 have the same hype as KillZone 2. Killzone 2 hype is only 2nd ever behind Halo 3 this gen.

Where's my Killzone 2 Mountain Dew at?



libellule on 07 November 2009
Hus said:
And you forget that since Gtlibellule said:
it seems some people continue to believe that GT5 will perform as good as GT1/2/3/4

STOP DREAMING !!!

Sure, it will sell like hot cake BUT it will sell less than during the PS2 era
remember not everybody has a PS3 ... we are not in the PS2 era

like always : do not look at the past !

Stop being delusional then.

Since day one GT was a reason to own a PS console and nothing has changed.  You are right dont look at the past casue GT5 will out sale all previous GT games and do it on a smaller used base.  Half of vg posters will then combust into flames from rage. 

I love seeing people be so wrong as many on vgc.   Ahh good times.

I m sorry man but I doubt that GT will go 15M LTD
I believe in something like 8-10M at the VERY VERY max
Like I have said : selling like hot cake but not like in the past

(hoping I m wrong ofc)



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