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Kasz216 on 06 November 2009
Euphoria14 said:

Valve: 360 Community Head and Shoulders Above PS3

Left 4 Dead project lead Chet Faliszek has said the 360 community is "head and shoulders above the PS3", and that's why the multiplayer-focused Left 4 Dead series isn't on Sony's console.

Speaking to CVG in a recent interview Faliszek said the community aspects of the PC and Xbox platforms "really fit" Left 4 Dead - so it's not coming out on PS3.

"Right now for Left 4 Dead 2 we're looking at PC and 360 because the community aspects really fit the game - it's all about playing with your friends," he said.

 


"But that's the short term. What we're looking at for the long term... if it works out, it works out. Right now don't not buy it on the 360 because you think it's coming out on the PS3 - it's not going to. Right? It's coming out on the PC and 360. It's going to be exclusive for that."

Faliszek replied went on: "In hooking up with your friends and the community aspects, I think the Xbox 360 is head and shoulders above the PS3. The 360 and PC are on par, right?"

Could this be Valve being butthurt over what Gearbox said? Is Valve correct in saying 360 online is on par with PC and "head and shoulders" above PS3?

Personally I don't think it is "head and shoulders" above PS3. I also don't think that this is a good excuse. I thought the excuse was originally development issues with PS3. Now it's the online?

Discuss.

 

Link: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226831

In order... No.  I'd be surprised if they even knew what gearbox said.


No, it's not on par with PC.

Yes it's head and shoulders over the PS3.  A lot more people seem to be online,  despite the fact that it costs money... and really chances are your friends are going to own 360 more then PS3. 



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Kasz216 on 06 November 2009
outlawauron said:
I'm curious how'd they would know, I mean they haven't made anything for PS3 ever.

Why would you have to make something for a system to know if there online community is better or not?

All it takes is having played both systems online.

Or hell, paying someone to do research.

I mean, it's pretty obvious that PS3 isn't set up as well to handle a game like L4D2.



libellule on 06 November 2009
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
I'm curious how'd they would know, I mean they haven't made anything for PS3 ever.

Why would you have to make something for a system to know if there online community is better or not?

All it takes is having played both systems online.

Or hell, paying someone to do research.

yah, it is like JRPG not fiting on the 360 that is why you all find them on PS3 !!

WAIT ... there are all on 360 !

more seriously, it is just a question Valve not liking the PS3 and not in need of new customer

or that MS is paying them but this last part is a lot more speculative ...

 



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XxXProphecyXxX on 06 November 2009

lol head and shoulder wats next ps3 controller is "waist and knee" below?



Simulacrum on 06 November 2009
Onyxmeth said:
Simulacrum said:
Well community on xbox360 is far better than Ps3.
At least what I have seen , since most of my gaming friends don't have Ps3...And its really hard to get friends who play with you on Psn.I'm not sure why.

Here's my main 3 reasons:

1. A lot of PS3 owners are legacy PS2 owners, and the PS2 just didn't attract a very large online community outside of Socom. PS2 owners were very used to single player experiences because of the poor online structure, support and weren't even very intuned with 4-player multiplayer since the PS2 only had two controller slots.

2. The PS3 doesn't come packaged with a headset.

3. The PS3 is always a few steps behind XBox Live, and for many on the fence the monetary aspect doesn't outweigh the experience you get. I think it stems from the word of mouth also. When the WoM selling point for the PSN is it's free, and the WoM selling point of Xbox Live is that it's the best, it's easy to see how that might win out in many scenarios.

Yes...If games like Killzone would have been big as Halo series,it would certainly bring many users from Playstation universe who play online together.

Also its much faster and easier to use.

Halo - Connectin people?Lol.



 

 

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Kasz216 on 06 November 2009
libellule said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
I'm curious how'd they would know, I mean they haven't made anything for PS3 ever.

Why would you have to make something for a system to know if there online community is better or not?

All it takes is having played both systems online.

Or hell, paying someone to do research.

yah, it is like JRPG not fiting on the 360 that is why you all find them on PS3 !!

WAIT ... there are all on 360 !

more seriously, it is just a question Valve not liking the PS3 and not in need of new customer

or that MS is paying them but this last part is a lot more speculative ...

 

I thought you were under the opinion JRPGs were on the 360 because MS paid for them.

I'd say Valve doesn't want to make the game for PS3 just because valve doesn't want to do it.

They are a private company so they don't have do stuff they don't want to.

However, what he said wasn't wrong.  The 360's online community is generally better.

Espiecally for a game like L4D.  It's really only at it's best when you've got a few friends with you.

Playing online with strangers sucks 9 times outta 10.



Garnett on 06 November 2009

How many PS3 owners have head sets? Few

 

I can agree 360 community is way better than PSN. And its a shooting game its guaranteed to sell well on XBL.

 

And the two reasons Onyxmeth gave us!



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Dgc1808 on 06 November 2009

If they played games like Killzone2 or Socom they'd know their's nothing wrong with the PSN set-up. If the dev wants players to connect with friends easier for online game, then they can make it easier. Killzone2 alone proves this. Also, SONY's recent addition of game launching from HOME has also made it pretty easy.

Fuck these guys.



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snyperdud on 06 November 2009
Onyxmeth said:
snyperdud said:
Onyxmeth said:
snyperdud said:
 

Because, to say that that PSN doesn't have a good enough community aspects to fully enjoy a game L4D is just plain stupid.

When a game like KZ2 can provide a great online/community experience that is on par with any online game that I've played on the 360 that proves it right there.

This would be like Naughty Dog saying Uncharted 2 online wouldn't work well on XBL because of the community.

Even though, they haven't even attempted nor have any intentions of attempting.

Seems really stupid to make a comment like that to me.

 

Maybe so, but I was quoting you because I was refering to your comment, not his. If you find it better if I take a stance on the matter, then I think his original comment is wrong, and yours was just as ignorant. The PSN community isn't perfect, but it's good enough to wrap the Left 4 Dead package around, and you obviously don't need to develop a PS3 game to know what the community is like.

What part of my comment was ignorant?

 

I never said PSN was perfect, or that even it was better than XBL.

It's true that Valve doesn't have to develop a game to know what the community is like. However, if you going to make a statement like they did, they should at least show some kind of proof or something to back up their comment.

Because right now, Valve are the ignorant ones.

The ignorant part of your comment was the part that said Valve needs to have developed a PS3 game to have knowledge of the PSN community. The fact that you've now said the complete opposite in the bolded shows you understand that your original statement was in no way correct and could have then be portrayed as ignorant.

Ok. I admit, I wrong on that.

But that still doesn't justify what Valve said was right though.



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SeriousWB on 06 November 2009
Onyxmeth said:

I said Gabe Newell made such and such comments, and you used that to think I was refering to Valve. We're obviously not on the same page so let's just forget it.

On a sidenote, Chet didn't have to mean to say PSN service or PSN community, because it seems he didn't say either. What you read was the writer of that piece of news say PSN community and then directly quote Chet. Here's the excerpt you're talking about:

Left 4 Dead project lead Chet Faliszek has said the 360 community is "head and shoulders above the PS3", and that's why the multiplayer-focused Left 4 Dead series isn't on Sony's console.

Note that the only thing directly quoted from Chet is the line "head and shoulders above the PS3". Everything else is told through the interpretations of the writer. Now let's look further down when the writer directly quotes Chet, but gives his entire response:

Faliszek replied went on: "In hooking up with your friends and the community aspects, I think the Xbox 360 is head and shoulders above the PS3. The 360 and PC are on par, right?"

Notice, the part where it says the exact same thing as the beginning, "head and shoulders above the PS3" but now you see the entire passage? You can tell he actually said the community aspects and hooking up with your friends, and didn't say what the writer alluded to in the beginning, which was the community itself. This is sensationalistic journalism. I'm sorry you fell for it.

I feel this needs to be quoted for emphasis.