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theprof00 said:
Lastly, what will you do when these guys lose their case? Will you sincerely apologize to "that friend", whom you believed the rumors about?
Will you say "sorry", for instantly believing them without proof, just because they COULD have been true? Couldn't is also have been true that those allegations weren't true.... ?

Because I can guarantee that Sony is in the right here. And if they have to settle, it was because of a state loophole in the law.
Hell, these guys are suing on behalf of every ps3 owner...did you know that? If they win, I better see some of this money because I never agreed to this.


Well settling is usually cheaper anyways, settling doesn't prove guilt/innocence.

And yes, I'm the first to admit when I'm wrong, and doubt isn't the same as belief. I may doubt my friend, but that doesn't mean I believe the rumors. But, I also don't disbelieve them.

 

@V-Rock, so I should have paid 100+ extra for backwards compatibilty 0.0 that's an expensive feature.

then again M$ is worse with their $5000 dollar 120 gb hd



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I can't bring myself to trust anonymous people on the internet anymore.



badgenome said:
I can't bring myself to trust anonymous people on the internet anymore.


Haha, and you used to?



the whole point with BC is that ps2 is the best console of all time...
why should you get it for free simply by buying a ps3, when you can simply buy a ps2 slim for less than 80$ now?

The point is that the ps2 will continue to sell, and it sells quite a bit every month. If ps2 BC were on the ps3, Sony would be in dire straits financially. They would have to bend over backwards to give customers for free, something which should be 80$.
Sure 360 has BC, but does 360 have ps2 BC? Actually it probably does, if you hacked your console.



r505Matt said:


Well settling is usually cheaper anyways, settling doesn't prove guilt/innocence.

And yes, I'm the first to admit when I'm wrong, and doubt isn't the same as belief. I may doubt my friend, but that doesn't mean I believe the rumors. But, I also don't disbelieve them.

 

@V-Rock, so I should have paid 100+ extra for backwards compatibilty 0.0 that's an expensive feature.

then again M$ is worse with their $5000 dollar 120 gb hd

As unfair as it may seem, yes you should if you want it.  Nobody gets what they want exactly or how they want it, thats how the world is.  There's alot of things that arent fair but we just have to deal with it cause thats how the world is.  If paying $100 to replace my PS2 and seeing as how a PS2 was roughly $130 at that time, its worth it.



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I'll just comment on the occasional (and it does seem to be a tiny minority) instance of updates bricking systems. The PS3, particularly before the Slim removed the Install Another OS option, was in a position where people could have different OS installed, very varied setups, etc. - as a result, I'm not too surprised that by chance a few of those combinations caused issues with the Firmware updates.

Now, unlike say RROD, this is a small scale issue vs say an update bricking 30% of the install base (which you'd sure hear about in a hurry) and while unfortunate for those involved, really does seem like no more than individual bad luck and the difficulty of checking every possible PS3 status prior to release of the FW. A few times they have had a bit more trouble, for example recent issues with Uncharted freezing, but in those cases a point release has been put out very quickly. With the Slim actually closing the system off more, I'm curious to see how much this persists going forward - although for older PS3 the ability to have a varied setup will continue of course.

So TBH, apparent from the legitimate charge of completely changing their tack on PS2 BC (but not PS1 BC), I'd say Sony hasn't really done anything too horrible from a consumer point of view, mainly dropping some USB ports and card readers (which no-one seems to miss, although I use mine a lot so will be sticking with the Phat) and having a very high initial price (although, to be fair, at the time, if you did want an HD console and a BR player the PS3 was a good buy).



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Actually, those are great points I didn't think of, PS2 is still the best-selling console, it would be absolutely silly to include that feature for nothing, and no company should ever do something like that.



theprof00 said:

the whole point with BC is that ps2 is the best console of all time...
why should you get it for free simply by buying a ps3, when you can simply buy a ps2 slim for less than 80$ now?

The point is that the ps2 will continue to sell, and it sells quite a bit every month. If ps2 BC were on the ps3, Sony would be in dire straits financially. They would have to bend over backwards to give customers for free, something which should be 80$.
Sure 360 has BC, but does 360 have ps2 BC? Actually it probably does, if you hacked your console.

Are you serious? That's like trying to justify Microsoft's overcharging on harddrives. Every system should be backwards compatible. Especially, if you know, it has been backwards compatible for awhile, I don't see any justification for taking that feature out.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

themanwithnoname said:
theprof00 said:

the whole point with BC is that ps2 is the best console of all time...
why should you get it for free simply by buying a ps3, when you can simply buy a ps2 slim for less than 80$ now?

The point is that the ps2 will continue to sell, and it sells quite a bit every month. If ps2 BC were on the ps3, Sony would be in dire straits financially. They would have to bend over backwards to give customers for free, something which should be 80$.
Sure 360 has BC, but does 360 have ps2 BC? Actually it probably does, if you hacked your console.

Are you serious? That's like trying to justify Microsoft's overcharging on harddrives. Every system should be backwards compatible. Especially, if you know, it has been backwards compatible for awhile, I don't see any justification for taking that feature out.


Simply put, any company should be expected to do whatever it can to maximize profitablity. Hence overcharged hard drives and no PS2 BC on the new PS3s. You shouldnt expect a company to just give you anything. Even promotions are done in a fashion as to generate profit.

I agree that each new system by a company should be BC, but that doesn't mean that it actually SHOULD be; that's just our opinion.



badgenome said:
I can't bring myself to trust anonymous people on the internet anymore.

 

:)

 

 

the end.

 

 

 

 

... or is it?