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cgkc17 on 05 November 2009

Why is PSP higher than DSi and DSLite combined? Persona's not that big in Japan, is it?



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Star Scream on 05 November 2009
cgkc17 said:
Why is PSP higher than DSi and DSLite combined? Persona's not that big in Japan, is it?

 

'Not that big?' It sold 108,000 on day one, and without DD numbers as well. That's more than what PS2 Persona 3 sold on day one.

 

PS2 Persona 3 sold 127,472 first week.

 

It's not often that port outsells the original, but it happened here, and it's quite an accomplishment.



binary solo on 05 November 2009
saicho said:
binary solo said:

According to who?

VGC has PS3 in Japan doing 24.7K last week. OK so I'm comparing VGC number last week with Famitsu number this week which creates a margin for error. But I'm gonna go with the numbers this site posts for consistency (Japan Preview is picking 35-40K so Famitsu is right in the sweet spot there). Feel free to correct me once VGC adjusts its 24 Oct numbers. I expect VGC 1 Nov numbers to be over 35K this week so an 11K boost minimum.

However, if you'd asked me to predict what the Bayonetta boost would be for PS3 and 360 I would have predicted not much of a boost and about the same. So 16% for both PS3 and 360 makes more sense to me. Perhaps last week's VGC numbers are a bit on the low side for PS3.

1. not sure why you are comparing Fatmisu number this week to VGC number last week while Famitsu number last week is available.

2. If PS3 is at 35K for VGC as your predicted, a 11K boost from 24K is not 54% boost.

3. If your prediction of 35K is true and apply your logic for "margin of error", I could say PS3 boost is only 13% (31K -> 35K).

Try reading the bit you bolded again. I already addressed your point 1. and I think it is fair to make the comparison. The way I see it the default reference for stats on this site is the VGC number, unless VGC doesn't have a number (which it doesn't yet for WE 1 Nov). So I use 24.5K for WE 24 Oct as the official VGC number (until adjusted) and 37K for 1 Nov as an unofficial but reasonably presumptive number (based on Famitsu number sitting nicely in the middle of the Japan Preview range).

For your point 2. I said "over 35K" not 35K, 37K is a reasonable figure to put as a placeholder again being what Famitsu has reported and fitting well with the Japan preview, near the middle. This suggests VGC will be close to 37K, thus 24K -> 37K is 54% . If VGC doesn't adjust 24 Oct numbers and this week is 37K then ~54% it will be (OK 24.5K which makes it 51%, sue me).

Point 3. again I'm predicting over 35K. So no you can't say the boost is only 13% using my predicion and reasoning. Using my prediciton you have to say the boost is >13%. Just a small point. In any case my logic for margin for error doesn't allow for 31K for 24 Oct, because as of right now 24.5K is a fixed reference by my logic. the margin for error is in the 1 Nov number only. However I also allow that VGC may end up adjusting 24 Oct up, in which case I invite you to gleefully correct me.

You also might want to read my paragraph you didn't bold too.



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aragod on 05 November 2009

1) VGC numbers for PS3, from last week in Japan are way off from all other tracking subjects for that area. So I'd say they are wrong. Is there going to be some kind of adjustment? Because it seems to confuse quiete a lot of ppl in these discussions.

2) I'm impressed with Xbox numbers for Bayonetta, they are really great when you take in account the difference in userbase and universal appeal of both consoles.

3) Is Forza 3 completly off the charts? Does anyone have any info about how much it sold this week in Japan?

4) I don't think DS XL is going to be such a monster as DSi or DSlite, it's huge, the display is not complimentary to it's resolution and graphic powers. I'd say Japanese will prefer smaller and slicker portable device, after all, the smaller the better, seems like their motto.



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Sapphire on 05 November 2009

no MC sales yet?



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txrattlesnake on 05 November 2009

PS3 kicked everybody this week. Even if Bayonetta sold decent on 360 it didn't raise 360 hardware above 4,800 for the week and exclusive FFXIII is coming for PS3.

PS3 even beat the DSi. I don't think you'll ever see 360 do that.



ethomaz on 05 November 2009

Media Create Software Sales:

1. [PS3] Bayonetta – 135,000 / NEW
2. [DS] Final Fantasy Gaiden: Four Warriors of Light – 115,000 / NEW
3. [PS3] Tekken 6 – 103,000 / NEW
4. [PSP] Persona 3 Portable – 94,000 / NEW
5. [DS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver – 87,000 / 2,844,000
6. [WII] Wii Fit Plus – 81,000 / 780,000
7. [360] Bayonetta – 64,000 / NEW
8. [DS] Tomodachi Collection – 53,000 / 1,519,000
9. [DS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Kyoui no Shinryakusha – Fire / Blizzard – 41,000 / 527,000
10. [WII] Super Robot Taisen Neo – 26,000 / NEW

Hardware not out yet.



jarrod on 05 November 2009
outlawauron said:
jarrod said:
outlawauron said:
Wow, Bayonetta an Tekken 6 have done very well and are surpassing expectations. Very good.

Super Robot Taisen Neo recovers a little bit after a bad first day, but those sales are still bad.

Tekken 6 undersold Tekken 5 1st week, even combining both versions (216k T5, 146k T6).  Not exactly great for the series, but at least it didn't bomb as bad as VF has this gen.  Bayonetta however did better than I think anyone expected or hoped for (204k).  It sold roughly 80% as much as DMC4 1st week (252k), which a nice turnaround for Platinum after Infinite Space's supply issues.

It should be mentioned too that SRT Neo is a kid focused 3D spinoff, and not part of the "main" SRT series.  It didn't do great, but it sold comparably to the last similar game (SRT GC, 36k 1st week) and well above it's enhanced port (SRT XO, 6k).

S&P2 numbers are disappointing given the original did 22k 1st week on N64. :/

Look, we've had this conversation already. It surpassed the expectations of retailers. The fighting genre is in a huge downturn on consoles and Tekken 6 has been available in arcades since 2007.

It surpassed Famitsu estimates, which are rarely accurate anyway and have no real bearing on anything (other what what Famitsu projects).  We've no clue what retail expected (we didn't get % sell through), and Namco didn't give out a regional breakdown for expectations either iirc (they've probably been burned too many times by their insane expectations before).

Tekken 6 did "just okay", maybe mildly disappointing.  It's not a huge flop, but it's not a rousing success either and it puts the series back on the decline (T5 was actually an improvement on T4 sales wise).



areseris on 05 November 2009
jarrod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
is 100K good for uncharted 2 in Japan?

It's great for UC2.  For bragging rights, it's better than Gears, Gears 2 or Halo 3. :D

According to VGC, Halo 3 sold 120K in japan.  CoD4 and Fable II are also above 100K in japan.

just fyi.

Regardless, I think it's great if Uncharted 2 can over 100K as well.

 



ViolentPhlegm on 05 November 2009
areseris said:
jarrod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
is 100K good for uncharted 2 in Japan?

It's great for UC2.  For bragging rights, it's better than Gears, Gears 2 or Halo 3. :D

According to VGC, Halo 3 sold 120K in japan.  CoD4 and Fable II are also above 100K in japan.

just fyi.

Regardless, I think it's great if Uncharted 2 can over 100K as well.

 


I think that he means it's on a better trajectory than Halo3.  Halo 3 had a better launch week, but U2 has had better cumulative sales starting with Week 2.