z64dan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
TWRoO said:
@omgwtfbbq: more like they are just stopping people making tools designed for the theft of bread.(despite the fact that no such tools are needed, but that's because the bread analogy doesn't fit)
locking up the whole town would be equivalent to locking up the whole videogaming community (or at least all the developers...but no they would be the breadmakers?)
basically bread stealing doesnt fit.
what should have been is the Wii should be region free, which would give no excuses then (The chips would still be made, but only bought by people wanting to actually play pirate games, not by people who are trying to get games at the same time/price as Japan/USA)
So yes it is partly Nintendos fault that things like Wii-Key are as popular as they are. -------- I thought it might be something like that with Brasil - Brazil.....i often try to use the British way of large numbers instead of the American, but everyone gets confused.
1 Billion in American = 1,000,000,000 (or one thousand million) [1X10^9]
1 Billion in British = 1,000,000,000,000 (or one million million) [1X10^12] 1 Trillion in American = 1,000,000,000,000 (or one million million) [1X10^12]
1 Trillion in British = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (or one million million million) [1X10^18] although at least Brazil and Brasil are not so different as to confuse (except isnt there a city in Brasil called Brazil) |
you can't make a bloody analogy any more without people taking it farther than you should. The point is, you're gettin rid of those who have the potential to steal, rather than those who are actually stealing. |
So you're saying Nintendo should break into a bunch of individual houses and try to stop individual players from illegally downloading games? Sounds like something the RIAA would do (Music Recording Industry). I think it's hilarious when these thieves (including you omgwtfbbq) try to rationalize their thievery. You know it's wrong to do, so you make up some lame reason why its OK. Nintendo has every right to raid these factories and sue the companies (Some even in europe, according to that article) that make/sell/distribute/are involved with these modchips on any level of the industrial process. Why would Nintendo want you to use homebrew anyway? They don't make any money off of that, so that argument is pretty pointless. When you buy the Wii, and read the instruction manual, it specifically states they do not support you modifying the console in any way, so it sounds like YOUR problem if Nintendo just raided your favorite modchip factory, LOL. Especially the people on these forums, who are in tune with all the game related news should ALREADY KNOW, FOR A FACT, BEFORE THEY PURCHASE THE WII:
1. The Wii is not Region Free
2. Games will be released in different regions at different times
3. Nintendo has every right to (AND WILL) release an update that BREAKS your modded Wii
4. Don't be suprised if Nintendo looks at the purchase records after they raid these factories |
Oh so I'm a theif am I? Thank you for your input. Care to elaborate? Care to tell me what it was I stole? (here's a hint, NOTHING). Care to tell me what law I broke? (here's a hint, NONE). Care to tell me what I did that "I know is wrong"? (here's a hint, NOTHING). I don't need to rationalise anything. I have broken no law, I have stolen nothing, the only thing I regret is having voided my manufacturer's warranty. Nintendo shouldn't care about that, it means I have to buy a new one if this one breaks.
You can sit there smug in the US and say what I'm doing is somehow wrong, but I don't see yourself volunteering to wait 2 months for all your major releases and then pay twice as much for it. I hope you're enjoying Metroid Prime 3 and Zack and Wiki, neither game has been released in Australia yet.
Nintendo of course are (probably) within their legal rights to raid a modchip factory (so long as said modchip factory isn't in Australia, anyway). I never claimed they weren't. Yes they say they don't support modifications, but Nintendo don't set the law, and the law clearly states I have the right to do so. So they can raid as many modchip factories as they want, it doesn't bother me because (1) I already have mine and (2) mod chips will continue to be built.
As for your supposed "facts" that I should know:
1) Yes it's region free, after the installation of a mod-chip. The correct FACT is "if you want region free playback, you will be forced to void the manufacturers warranty." I would love it if there was a region free unlocker like the freeloader for the GC that didn't do so, but unfortunately, there isn't.
2) I know, it doesn't bother me, because I can just import them from US/Europe
3) Of course. They already have, four times. Two hardware modifications (both worked around) to stop new consoles being modded. These won't break my Wii, but they make new ones more difficult. the 3.0 update broke the WiiKey, one week later a firmware update fixed it back up. Super Mario Galaxy apparently has some sort of protection which detects whether a mod chip is installed. This has been broken already, before the game was even released! So I have little faith in Nintendo breaking anything,
4) Not that that will do anything as of course I didn't buy them direct from the factory. But it doesn't matter. Hell, I'll write them a letter saying I purchased a modchip and give them my name, address, and phone number. What are they going to do, cancel my Nintendo club membership?
You don't seem to realise thatin many countries (such as my own) modchips are perfectly legal. Once you understand that there are countries that exist outside your United States of America, and som of these have different laws to you, then you'll understand my point of view. Until then, keep making nonsensical arguments.
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