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twesterm on 29 October 2009
Profcrab said:
justinian said:

I have read through this thread and it's all about "I pay for live because..this...that...the other".

Rubbish.

You pay for Live because you have no choice.

Don't pay and no online gaming, no online anything. You have nothing but a standalone console like the PS1.

This is good enough for some but obviously not for most.


If you are happy to pay for live, great. It's your money so you do what you want with it.

When justifing something that is mandatory, as in this case, it is like making a lame excuse.

It's like saying "I love to pay my taxes"  without adding  "because I really don't have a choice and I would get fined or put in prison otherwise"

Just my opinion.

My intention is not to offend.

You are right.  I also pay for DirecTV because they won't give it to me for free.  I mean, broadcast TV is free, right?  Those BASTARDS at DirecTV make me pay to bring me more channels.  Viva la resistance!

Sure, it would be great if XBL Gold was free, but it's not.  In my experience it has been a superior product to PSN.  If it was inferior I might have a different opinion about it's value but until that day (which goes beyond Netflix and cross game chat), I feel I am getting what I pay for from XBL.

I give that post a 9.1.

Ugh, I had what I thought was a witty comment all written up and then I decided to read the rest of the replies and saw this that said it so much better in so fewer words.  Dammnit. -_-

 



 

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Rawnchie14 on 29 October 2009

Why wouldn't I?  What a silly question, Live is the best online matchmaking community for gaming, and then I don't feel like swapping out a Netflix disk to watch streaming media until they get things straightened out.  Plus, PS3 will NEVER have an equal to the party system, will never match the community level that Live has (last.fm/Facebook/Zune, which all work well), and no matter how much people chime on about the PSN (which I use plenty), you get what you pay for.

 

PSN and Live are still, and probably always will be, on totally different levels.  My mind can't be changed, b/c its based solely on experience, not on argument.



Damnyouall on 29 October 2009
twesterm said:
Profcrab said:
justinian said:

I have read through this thread and it's all about "I pay for live because..this...that...the other".

Rubbish.

You pay for Live because you have no choice.

Don't pay and no online gaming, no online anything. You have nothing but a standalone console like the PS1.

This is good enough for some but obviously not for most.


If you are happy to pay for live, great. It's your money so you do what you want with it.

When justifing something that is mandatory, as in this case, it is like making a lame excuse.

It's like saying "I love to pay my taxes"  without adding  "because I really don't have a choice and I would get fined or put in prison otherwise"

Just my opinion.

My intention is not to offend.

You are right.  I also pay for DirecTV because they won't give it to me for free.  I mean, broadcast TV is free, right?  Those BASTARDS at DirecTV make me pay to bring me more channels.  Viva la resistance!

Sure, it would be great if XBL Gold was free, but it's not.  In my experience it has been a superior product to PSN.  If it was inferior I might have a different opinion about it's value but until that day (which goes beyond Netflix and cross game chat), I feel I am getting what I pay for from XBL.

I give that post a 9.1.

Ugh, I had what I thought was a witty comment all written up and then I decided to read the rest of the replies and saw this that said it so much better in so fewer words.  Dammnit. -_-

 

While this analogy may seem fitting at first, it really isn't: If you only have a 360 and want online gaming, you have no choice. Either you pay, or you don't play.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Damnyouall on 29 October 2009
Rawnchie14 said:

PS3 will [...] never match the community level that Live has (last.fm/Facebook [...])

PS3's browser says "hi". Home says "hi".

Rawnchie14 said:

My mind can't be changed

And that, ladies and gents, is the definition of fanboyism.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

justinian on 29 October 2009
Profcrab said:
justinian said:

I have read through this thread and it's all about "I pay for live because..this...that...the other".

Rubbish.

You pay for Live because you have no choice.

Don't pay and no online gaming, no online anything. You have nothing but a standalone console like the PS1.

This is good enough for some but obviously not for most.


If you are happy to pay for live, great. It's your money so you do what you want with it.

When justifing something that is mandatory, as in this case, it is like making a lame excuse.

It's like saying "I love to pay my taxes"  without adding  "because I really don't have a choice and I would get fined or put in prison otherwise"

Just my opinion.

My intention is not to offend.

You are right.  I also pay for DirecTV because they won't give it to me for free.  I mean, broadcast TV is free, right?  Those BASTARDS at DirecTV make me pay to bring me more channels.  Viva la resistance!

Sure, it would be great if XBL Gold was free, but it's not.  In my experience it has been a superior product to PSN.  If it was inferior I might have a different opinion about it's value but until that day (which goes beyond Netflix and cross game chat), I feel I am getting what I pay for from XBL.

I give that post a 9.1.

That's strange. I think you see my point yet missed my point.

You pay for live because with it your x360 experience is complete.

Why most people feel the need to defend themselves for doing this is puzzling.

It seems like everyone need to justify why they pay for live? Is this to make them feel better because they have to pay for it?

"It's better than PSN", "It's blah blah blah".

I live in the UK and pay the yearly BBC license fee. Why? Because I have to.

You pay to take your x360 online. Why? Because you have to.

It's so simple it's amazing.

I am not knocking people who pay for live. This is not an attack on them.

If I still owned a x360 and I wanted to play online I would pay the Live subscription.

If I do get another x360 (pretty sure I will) then I will have to pay to take it online.

Not because I want to or because I don't want to, but because I have to.

Some people, not you profcrab, come across as if paying for Live is a pleasure. I don't get this.

To me paying for Live would be the same as paying for any other goddamn bill, electric, telephone, gas, etc.

To me it will just be another bill, nothing more nothing less.

this was written hastily but I really do hope you understand where I am coming from.

 

 

 

 



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twesterm on 29 October 2009
Damnyouall said:
twesterm said:
Profcrab said:
justinian said:

I have read through this thread and it's all about "I pay for live because..this...that...the other".

Rubbish.

You pay for Live because you have no choice.

Don't pay and no online gaming, no online anything. You have nothing but a standalone console like the PS1.

This is good enough for some but obviously not for most.


If you are happy to pay for live, great. It's your money so you do what you want with it.

When justifing something that is mandatory, as in this case, it is like making a lame excuse.

It's like saying "I love to pay my taxes"  without adding  "because I really don't have a choice and I would get fined or put in prison otherwise"

Just my opinion.

My intention is not to offend.

You are right.  I also pay for DirecTV because they won't give it to me for free.  I mean, broadcast TV is free, right?  Those BASTARDS at DirecTV make me pay to bring me more channels.  Viva la resistance!

Sure, it would be great if XBL Gold was free, but it's not.  In my experience it has been a superior product to PSN.  If it was inferior I might have a different opinion about it's value but until that day (which goes beyond Netflix and cross game chat), I feel I am getting what I pay for from XBL.

I give that post a 9.1.

Ugh, I had what I thought was a witty comment all written up and then I decided to read the rest of the replies and saw this that said it so much better in so fewer words.  Dammnit. -_-

 

While this analogy may seem fitting at first, it really isn't: If you only have a 360 and want online gaming, you have no choice. Either you pay, or you don't play.

TV: you have basic cable but if you want HD or better channels, you have to pay.  You either pay or you don't watch.

360: You can play your games but if you want to play multiplayer or Gold exclusive features, you have to pay.  you either pay or you don't play with friends.

The analogy seems to work fine for me...



 

Alic0004 on 29 October 2009
youarebadatgames said:
Live is more social. Girlfriend plays with her clan and there is always something to do, someone to talk to, and she dresses up the avatar all the time.

I'm sure Live is not worth it if you don't have any friends online, which is a lot sadder than not having friends IRL.

 

 

I'm not so sure about that one

 

What's crazy is that you have to pay for two live accounts with certain games, if your girlfriend wants to be able to go online.  Even games which are mostly single player -- for example, Fable II.



 

Seraphic_Sixaxis on 29 October 2009

And Cross game chat for PS3 was confirmed WHEN?! link please.



MonstaMack on 29 October 2009
Stan85 said:
MonstaMack said:
Yeah right. By the time my Live subscription is over I'll have probably 200 games between XBLA and 360 disc based games. I'm already paying under $30 a year for Live so It's not a huge deal for me. I would never switch to a PS3 just for free online play when I've already invested so much on the 360.

Next generation on the other hand maybe. Microsoft is going to have to convince me to keep paying for XBLA in a few years when the PSN is getting more and more features. Makes me wonder how long they'll stay free though.

As for Microsoft to stop charging for XBL, that's not gonna happen as long as subscriptions continue to rise which they are doing. Maybe a price cut to $40 a year or something.


Under 30$ a year? How do you do it? Where do you buy it from?

Buy.com had memberships for $28 shipped just before the new Avatar cards came out. So they were the old style bubble packaged ones. Anyways there was no limit so I picked up 3. Amazon and Toysrus.com also had them for $30 multiple times in the last year. Whenever there is a sale for under $30 I jump on it as you can stack your membership for atleast 3+ years.



It's just that simple.

Rawnchie14 on 30 October 2009
Damnyouall said:
Rawnchie14 said:

PS3 will [...] never match the community level that Live has (last.fm/Facebook [...])

PS3's browser says "hi". Home says "hi".

Rawnchie14 said:

My mind can't be changed

And that, ladies and gents, is the definition of fanboyism.

Yea, which is why I have both consoles and play both heavily.  I MUST be a fanboy for having used both and having an opinion to make of it!

Good thing guys like you pay attention.  Nerd - the only fanboy here is you, one who completely misconstrues someone's OPINION of something they've used and experienced - cherrypicking my statements so you can dismiss me and sleep better at night dreaming of PSN.  Hypocrits.  How lovely!

Home, is a joke.  I don't want to enter a "world" to chat with my gaming friends.  I just want to connect, and play the games.  No extra crap, not my thing.  Party up, something PSN really needs and seems like it won't be having any time soon.  THEN your browser arguement is laughable.  I used the Last.fm/Facebook implementations for the 360 in the preview, and it will handily trump accessing these same features on a PS3 browser.  Your arguments are thusly rebutted.