The PS3 Slim came out a while ago. The thing is that games like these sell well over there, just not in massive numbers.

'You're spinning. No one stated it was a system selling game.'.

Tell it to Square Enix.

And I love all this 'we all knew Final Fantasy spin offs don't sell in Japan' attitude AFTER the launch.

How do you explain Crystal Chronicles on GC blowing this out of the water?

"Crystal Bearers developer: Selling on Wii will not be easy."

I don't think they need us to... >_>

Er...wrong thread, hanafuda?

Funny pic, but you clearly have no comeback.

Read this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=91287

The problem you have (and this relates to why I posted that picture) is that you keep offering non sequitirs. I don't mean to imply that you're a monkey who pounds on the keyboard or anything, but whatever thought process you use does not make a lick of sense to me at all.

What I mean by that is that you're posting things that, to me, have little relation with the discussion at hand. Please explain to me what the sales of Crystal Chronicles on the Gamecube have to do with Crystal Bearers, or how the predictions of some site members (some of which were accurate/under the figures we have so far) has any bearing to any of the statements I responded to.

You can't claim we should tell it to them unless you have a link they claimed otherwise.

And we weren't claiming they don't sell, just selling huge.

Plus you're still spinning. You keep trying to find different points, other than the pertinent ones.

I plan to buy the game, but not on launch day.

Crystal bearers didn't took three years in development. actually it was a bit over two years. It started as a concept with no actual development on the engine at all and it took a long time before the actual developmet began and the team is not as big as the others, but that does not make them less talented.

The real problem with Crystal Beares is that the game didn't exceed expectations, even though is a good game. a 15 hour adventure is short compared to other titles in the genre, and so far (I have not played it, only seen the videos), the game does not have a lot of the "Epic feeling".

Crystal Bearers is a quality title, and I admire the team for the direction they took, but it does not that the factors that will game it a huge success

'The problem you have (and this relates to why I posted that picture) is that you keep offering non sequitirs. I don't mean to imply that you're a monkey who pounds on the keyboard or anything, but whatever thought process you use does not make a lick of sense to me at all. What I mean by that is that you're posting things that, to me, have little relation with the discussion at hand. Please explain to me what the sales of Crystal Chronicles on the Gamecube have to do with Crystal Bearers, or how the predictions of some site members (some of which were accurate/under the figures we have so far) has any bearing to any of the statements I responded to.'.

? You were responding to me, not the other way around.

How on earth can this game NOT be compared to CC? You just want to avoid that because sales of that put the sales of Bearers to shame.

That prediction thread clearly shows that almost everyone that posted expected the game to do way better. Only Kenology and Avinash were close, and their figures were so low I suspect they were just messing around and it turns out they were actually close to the reality.

I don't recall saying that you were responding to me. If you would be so kind as to point out where I did that, I shall correct myself posthaste.

Not at all. I've freely conceded in other threads that this game bombed, and I cheerfully do so here as well.

That said, you're comparing Crystal Bearers to a 4-player ARPG, on a different system, that was released over five years ago. You're smart enough to see why you'll have to set some sort of foundation for comparing the two, beyond "they're from the same series!" Especially since there have been multiple other Crystal Chronicles games released since then, including three other ones on the Wii.

So lay your foundation: why should we care about a Gamecube game from a different genre?

As I pointed out myself, people were wrong in their sales predictions. But your statement was, and I quote, "[a]nd I love all this 'we all knew Final Fantasy spin offs don't sell in Japan' attitude AFTER the launch." How do pre-release sales predictions relate to that?

'You're spinning. No one stated it was a system selling game.'.

Really? The Source did. Remember the Japan preview?

'Expect Wii hardware sales to rise into the 27,000 to 33,000 unit range for the week on Final Fantasy and seasonal factors.'.