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SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

I thought that justification was ridiculous actually, student union nonsense.

To deny there is a major issue to be addressed with immigration is daft and blind. The black guy in the suit just asked a very good question. The point needs to be addressed, not glossed over simply because it is a taboo subject.

The problem with immigration is that many unskilled immigrants come to our country through unfortunate circumstances such as poverty and war. These people cannot contribute to the country very easily due to their situation. This is unfortunate, but it takes up a large portion of immigrants.

A closed door system wouldn't work, it would be absurd. The solution imo would be to screen an immigrants motivation and potential contribution. EU migrant workers are totally fine, because they come here solely to work and contribute and it's beneficial to our economy to allow them to do so. From a more international view a person should be judged on what they can contribute, allowing them to immigrate over here for skilled labour, relationships or education. A lot of immigrants come here though through unfortunate circumstances like poverty, but it is necessary to just be tough and say "We sympathise with you, but we can't help you all" and tell them they can't come here.

That's just my view though, a more stringent screening process based on what they can offer us as opposed to what we can offer them. The good thing about this system is that race is not a factor and so it is fair and balanced.

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

I know it's harsh, but unless they are in serious serious danger and have absolutely no where else to go then we should be a bit more hard nosed. It's unfortunate and I sympathise with them, but sometimes you have to just say 'no'.

I feel sad for people who are forced to leave their country though fear. But many leave through poverty and war and sometimes you just have to say "We sympathise with you, but you must offer us something as well as us offering you something".

I hope I'm not coming off as racist here because I'm really not a racist, hopefully you guys know I'm pretty anti-racist from my posts. I think what I'm trying to suggest here is a more stringent system that does not see race as a driving factor in any way.



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SciFiBoy said:
zuvuyeay said:
SciFiBoy said:
zuvuyeay said:
SciFiBoy said:
Kamal said:
Wow Labour and Nick Griffin are just getting slaughtered.

Keep laughing at him saying "indigenous people"

as Bonnie Greer pointed out, techically all Humans are idigenous to africa...


yes....but also europe and britain is native white......whats wrong with saying that....

define native?

how far do you go back? why so far for some things, but not so far for others?

aren't  whites native to europe....?

arent humans native to earth?

isnt race irrelevant, were all human?

of course......we are all humans from earth....but whites are still european native...aren't they....?

 



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highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

I thought that justification was ridiculous actually, student union nonsense.

To deny there is a major issue to be addressed with immigration is daft and blind. The black guy in the suit just asked a very good question. The point needs to be addressed, not glossed over simply because it is a taboo subject.

The problem with immigration is that many unskilled immigrants come to our country through unfortunate circumstances such as poverty and war. These people cannot contribute to the country very easily due to their situation. This is unfortunate, but it takes up a large portion of immigrants.

A closed door system wouldn't work, it would be absurd. The solution imo would be to screen an immigrants motivation and potential contribution. EU migrant workers are totally fine, because they come here solely to work and contribute and it's beneficial to our economy to allow them to do so. From a more international view a person should be judged on what they can contribute, allowing them to immigrate over here for skilled labour, relationships or education. A lot of immigrants come here though through unfortunate circumstances like poverty, but it is necessary to just be tough and say "We sympathise with you, but we can't help you all" and tell them they can't come here.

That's just my view though, a more stringent screening process based on what they can offer us as opposed to what we can offer them. The good thing about this system is that race is not a factor and so it is fair and balanced.

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

I know it's harsh, but unless they are in serious serious danger and have absolutely no where else to go then we should be a bit more hard nosed. It's unfortunate and I sympathise with them, but sometimes you have to just say 'no'.

I feel sad for people who are forced to leave their country though fear. But many leave through poverty and war and sometimes you just have to say "We sympathise with you, but you must offer us something as well as us offering you something".

 

I hope I'm not coming off as racist here because I'm really not a racist, hopefully you guys know I'm pretty anti-racist from my posts. I think what I'm trying to suggest here is a more stringent system that does not see race as a driving factor in any way.

so let the poor or disadvanted among them get raped or killed?

how can that NOT be seen as racist? these people are just as HUMAN as you or I




zuvuyeay said:
SciFiBoy said:
zuvuyeay said:
SciFiBoy said:
zuvuyeay said:
SciFiBoy said:
Kamal said:
Wow Labour and Nick Griffin are just getting slaughtered.

Keep laughing at him saying "indigenous people"

as Bonnie Greer pointed out, techically all Humans are idigenous to africa...


yes....but also europe and britain is native white......whats wrong with saying that....

define native?

how far do you go back? why so far for some things, but not so far for others?

aren't  whites native to europe....?

arent humans native to earth?

isnt race irrelevant, were all human?

of course......we are all humans from earth....but whites are still european native...aren't they....?

 

im not sure exactly, but what are you saying if they are? does that give whites more right to live here? no, does that give blacks less right to live here? no, so what is your point?



We don't turn away anybody who could possibly be raped or murdered. That's the whole point of giving somebody asylum.

Besides, asylum seekers are supposed to apply for asylum in the first safe country they enter.



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Pyro as Bill said:
We don't turn away anybody who could possibly be raped or murdered. That's the whole point of giving somebody asylum.

Besides, asylum seekers are supposed to apply for asylum in the first safe country they enter.

then why are people complaining about them?




SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

I know it's harsh, but unless they are in serious serious danger and have absolutely no where else to go then we should be a bit more hard nosed. It's unfortunate and I sympathise with them, but sometimes you have to just say 'no'.

I feel sad for people who are forced to leave their country though fear. But many leave through poverty and war and sometimes you just have to say "We sympathise with you, but you must offer us something as well as us offering you something".

 

I hope I'm not coming off as racist here because I'm really not a racist, hopefully you guys know I'm pretty anti-racist from my posts. I think what I'm trying to suggest here is a more stringent system that does not see race as a driving factor in any way.

so let the poor or disadvanted among them get raped or killed?

how can that NOT be seen as racist? these people are just as HUMAN as you or I

I'm sorry Scifiboy, you know I always stick up for you in debates and I'm usually very pro-immigration. But I think you're living in a fantasy world here, the world is tough sometimes.

I'm not saying that those threatened by being raped and killed should not come here, they can if the situation is bad enough. But when someone applies for immigration through more minor circumstances and can't offer us anything in return then we shouldn't be as afraid to say say no. 



highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

I know it's harsh, but unless they are in serious serious danger and have absolutely no where else to go then we should be a bit more hard nosed. It's unfortunate and I sympathise with them, but sometimes you have to just say 'no'.

I feel sad for people who are forced to leave their country though fear. But many leave through poverty and war and sometimes you just have to say "We sympathise with you, but you must offer us something as well as us offering you something".

 

I hope I'm not coming off as racist here because I'm really not a racist, hopefully you guys know I'm pretty anti-racist from my posts. I think what I'm trying to suggest here is a more stringent system that does not see race as a driving factor in any way.

so let the poor or disadvanted among them get raped or killed?

how can that NOT be seen as racist? these people are just as HUMAN as you or I

I'm sorry Scifiboy, you know I always stick up for you in debates and I'm usually very pro-immigration. But I think you're living in a fantasy world here, the world is tough sometimes.

I'm not saying that those threatened by being raped and killed should not come here, they can if the situation is bad enough. But when someone applies for immigration through more minor circumstances and can't offer us anything in return then we shouldn't be as afraid to say say no. 

oic, thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were saying all of them should be stopped.



SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:

so let the poor or disadvanted among them get raped or killed?

how can that NOT be seen as racist? these people are just as HUMAN as you or I

I'm sorry Scifiboy, you know I always stick up for you in debates and I'm usually very pro-immigration. But I think you're living in a fantasy world here, the world is tough sometimes.

I'm not saying that those threatened by being raped and killed should not come here, they can if the situation is bad enough. But when someone applies for immigration through more minor circumstances and can't offer us anything in return then we shouldn't be as afraid to say say no. 

oic, thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were saying all of them should be stopped.

Now you see lol.

If someone comes here and says "My government tried to kill me" = Come on in.

If someone comes here and says "The economy has taken a downturn in my Country" = Sorry not today.



I think it's nice that three parties who seem to disagree with each other on everything were able to put aside their differences (mostly) and own Nick Griffin for an hour

I loved how Straw (was it Straw) linked the topic which was supposed to be a departure from BNP-bashing, back to BNP-bashing.



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