Um I would say about 30-40$. it should be $20 cheaper than the price of a brand new game.
ironman said:
You didn't buy the service that allows you to play online. Just the game and the option to use the service. Please don't tell me you think paying for a service like XBL or PSN is like paying for your internet connection twice. Becuase I just got done pointing out that it isn't (for the one millionth time) |
Seriously dude, there are some of us who believe that it's wrong for us to go buy a game and have to pay to use something that's on the disc we bought. If the online is on the disc that I BOUGHT WITH MY OWN MONEY, AND I NOW OWN, then I will not pay to use something that I already own. For games like online MMORPGs that I don't have to go out and buy, I wouldn't have as much problem of paying a subscription since I don't own the game; I never went out and bought it.
Just accept that some of us won't pay to play online.
PSN is worth 0 dollars to me since you can do that that for free and more on a PC, including the XBL features that you have to pay for which is utter BS. I'm just happy that they will finally put in cross game voice chat in the next firmware update, about damn time, now they just need to let me play whatever the hell music I want when I'm actually playing the damn games and that's good enough for me.
insomniac17 said:
Seriously dude, there are some of us who believe that it's wrong for us to go buy a game and have to pay to use something that's on the disc we bought. If the online is on the disc that I BOUGHT WITH MY OWN MONEY, AND I NOW OWN, then I will not pay to use something that I already own. For games like online MMORPGs that I don't have to go out and buy, I wouldn't have as much problem of paying a subscription since I don't own the game; I never went out and bought it. You did not buy the service to play online with the game. with PSN you bought the right to use the service with the console, same with the Wii. The 360 (unfortunately) did not come with the right to use the online gaming service/ Xbox connection service. So you have to buy the right on a monthly/yearly basis. Look, I get that you don't want to pay to play online, and I don't fault you for that, but at least use an argument that makes sense.
Just accept that some of us won't pay to play online. erm, I never said that was a bad thing, it's just that some of the arguments used to justify that, are horribly flawed. Some people on here should be thanking me for pointing out how horrible their argument is. I support everybody's right to choose whether or not to play on line, but I do not support flawed logic. |
insomniac17 said:
Seriously dude, there are some of us who believe that it's wrong for us to go buy a game and have to pay to use something that's on the disc we bought. If the online is on the disc that I BOUGHT WITH MY OWN MONEY, AND I NOW OWN, then I will not pay to use something that I already own. For games like online MMORPGs that I don't have to go out and buy, I wouldn't have as much problem of paying a subscription since I don't own the game; I never went out and bought it. Just accept that some of us won't pay to play online. |
MMOs are also constantly being updated with heavy hits on bandwidth and servers that costs $$, PS3 online games are "mostly" based on P2P connections whereas XBL has actual servers, so there is no reason to charge for PSN at all. The problem with the way PS3 does things is that you have to pray for everybody you play with to have good connection speed like yours, and that's why it's free. PC is still the superior in that aspect since you can just run servers for nothing but your usual internet bill for the most part unless you are in a big clan that rents them.
ironman said:
You didn't buy the service that allows you to play online. Just the game and the option to use the service. Please don't tell me you think paying for a service like XBL or PSN is like paying for your internet connection twice. Becuase I just got done pointing out that it isn't (for the one millionth time) |
No. Online is part of a game. It comes on the disc that I buy. That means I bought the right to play online and I will not pay extra for it. Add-on content is acceptable only if the company creates it after the game is released. Otherwise, I do not pay for add-on content either. It should have been on the disc.
I have moved and do not have the internet at home, yet.
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read my reply to that above, when you play your games on PS3, it's mostly P2P, there is 0 reason to charge for that. XBL has actual dedicated servers, you are also paying to see a shit ton of ads which is stupid imo.
dahuman said:
MMOs are also constantly being updated with heavy hits on bandwidth and servers that costs $$, PS3 online games are "mostly" based on P2P connections whereas XBL has actual servers, so there is no reason to charge for PSN at all. The problem with the way PS3 does things is that you have to pray for everybody you play with to have good connection speed like yours, and that's why it's free. PC is still the superior in that aspect since you can just run servers for nothing but your usual internet bill for the most part unless you are in a big clan that rents them. |
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not. So, this isn't necessarily directed towars you. 
What I'm saying is that I can understand MMO's charging a subscription fee. I just won't pay it, so I won't play them. Really, that's all there is to it. I REFUSE to pay to play online. If I can't play it right out of the box, then I'm not gonna do it. I have better way to spend my money. 
EDIT: To clarify, DLC is okay, but I usually don't buy it since it tends to be for multiplayer a lot. If, however, the dev includes the DLC on my disc, but requires me to pay to unlock it, THEN I have a problem.
dahuman said:
MMOs are also constantly being updated with heavy hits on bandwidth and servers that costs $$, PS3 online games are "mostly" based on P2P connections whereas XBL has actual servers, so there is no reason to charge for PSN at all. The problem with the way PS3 does things is that you have to pray for everybody you play with to have good connection speed like yours, and that's why it's free. PC is still the superior in that aspect since you can just run servers for nothing but your usual internet bill for the most part unless you are in a big clan that rents them. |
I think you have PSN and XBL switched. PSN is not a P2P network, and XBL is a P2P network. But yes, this is the free market, XBL is a pay service, and as long as people are willing to purchase the right to use that service, MS will continue to charge.
BTW. Servers are not free, they cost money to upkeep, upgrade, they use elctricity. What you though a server was just a bare bones computor that runs on air in an enclosed room that never sees daylight?
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