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Ail on 20 October 2009
joeorc said:
Ail said:

Microsoft : we generate more $ per customers because we charge for Internet connection while our competitors give it for free and we sell proprietary accessories that cost an arm and a leg...( 100$ wifi anyone ?)

 

Hurrah !

well the thing is I think Microsoft's whole point is you can upgrade over time, some advantages to doing it that way.

for example the same example you gave:

the new wifi expansion will include "n" which is a further range Wifi

and with the PS3 you would also have to buy a USB Wifi device with "N" capability if you wanted that function

of greater Wifi range also

but unlike the xbox360 you cannot remove the built in wifi in the PS3

it's kind of a waste for the PS3 to get an extra USB Wifi adapter just for "N"

but for the xbox360 it's a good upgrade but that depend's on if you think the price is ok for the upgrade

and that's what Microsoft gave the consumer.

not to say For me It's not that big of a deal because i use cat 5 anyway. but for some its a nice way to get into the game system and upgrade the system over time. pretty much like  HOW you upgrade the PC.

 

PS3 ships with WiFi, 360 does not...

And honestly you got to live in a 10th century 5000 square feet castle to require N wireless support....

It's not like you're going to take your 360 out and try to use it in the middle of a park to grab a wifi signal coming from 1000 yards away....

 

How about HDD ? You know you can replace the PS3 one with any third party 2.5 inch laptop drive right ? Whereas the 360 requires you to purchase an overpriced Microsoft HDD..

 



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ironman on 20 October 2009
shio said:
ironman said:
shio said:
sully1311 said:
shio said:
Seriously, what are you all complaining about? It's only an extra $4 a month!!!


In the UK, it would be something like £80-100 which is comparable to 140-180 dollars. Is that really worth it?

I'm being sarcastic. I actually believe that it's a rip off to even pay anything XBLG when there's better and free services like Steam.

Steam is overrated. It's buggy, patches suck and are a pain in the butt downloads are slow. No, Steam is not better than XBL. However, XBL price goes up, they may lose another customer. I have a feeling I will be back on XBC again.

Hell no, Steam is almost problem-free. Valve just kept fixing and fixing Steam so many times that it has become the great service it is now.

Hardly, I used it about a month ago, it bogged down my comp, the downloads were slow, the patches took forever, and there were so many of them...such a hassle.



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Grey21 on 20 October 2009

Claims, arguments, boasts and none of it matters. It's the compleet package that sells and the whole is more then the sum of it's parts. It doesn't matter that the 360 is weaker, as long as it is a significant console then multiplatform games will be build around specs that work on both HD-twins. Naturally Microsoft has to defend it's console strength but the truth is their console is weaker and they don't care because only PS3 exclusives use the PS3's stength and consumers who want those exclusives wouldn't have gotten a 360 even fi it was more powerful. They took wise lessons from the PS2 while Sony only learned to love itself. They are now changing their game aswell but they gave Microsoft a chance to get even and Microsoft took it. This the PS3 Slim and pricecut this is Sony's time to shine but it's impossible to say which one will end up on top. And that is a lot more interesting then the PS2 vs the rest.



joeorc on 20 October 2009
kungfuian said:
@joeorc's "Microsoft has shown they are more than willing to eat the cost on thing's this generation. look at the over 1.8 billion they ate so they could extend the xbox360 warrenty. which was a good move but cost the company quite a bit "

Just wanted to point out Mircosoft did this to save their own ass, and not out of loyalty/charity to the customer! Otherwise they could have been looking at a full recall of the product!

yea not to say it was not mostly PR based.., I know, but they did indeed eat the cost so from a consumer perspective it is indeed a good thing. not to say it was the right thing to me they should have had a recall like the auto industry does with known fault's in car's. but still Microsoft did offer a solution to the consumer an to me I would not fault Microsoft for that.

The fact that Microsoft did is a good thing no matter what :

the fact that Microsoft did indeed follow what it mean's and they have since did just that.

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justinian on 20 October 2009

If this does happen - the double the cost for live - it must be because their faith in their live subscribers is extremely high.

If they are "hooked" on Live why not take more money of them. Simple economics. From these threads there are those willing to pay a lot more for live so why not raise the price.

The problem can be new subscribers.

Oh, well. It's all speculation...who knows what will happen....apart from MS of course.



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joeorc on 20 October 2009
Ail said:
joeorc said:
Ail said:

Microsoft : we generate more $ per customers because we charge for Internet connection while our competitors give it for free and we sell proprietary accessories that cost an arm and a leg...( 100$ wifi anyone ?)

 

Hurrah !

well the thing is I think Microsoft's whole point is you can upgrade over time, some advantages to doing it that way.

for example the same example you gave:

the new wifi expansion will include "n" which is a further range Wifi

and with the PS3 you would also have to buy a USB Wifi device with "N" capability if you wanted that function

of greater Wifi range also

but unlike the xbox360 you cannot remove the built in wifi in the PS3

it's kind of a waste for the PS3 to get an extra USB Wifi adapter just for "N"

but for the xbox360 it's a good upgrade but that depend's on if you think the price is ok for the upgrade

and that's what Microsoft gave the consumer.

not to say For me It's not that big of a deal because i use cat 5 anyway. but for some its a nice way to get into the game system and upgrade the system over time. pretty much like  HOW you upgrade the PC.

 

PS3 ships with WiFi, 360 does not...

And honestly you got to live in a 10th century 5000 square feet castle to require N wireless support....

It's not like you're going to take your 360 out and try to use it in the middle of a park to grab a wifi signal coming from 1000 yards away....

 

How about HDD ? You know you can replace the PS3 one with any third party 2.5 inch laptop drive right ? Whereas the 360 requires you to purchase an overpriced Microsoft HDD..

 

lol...are you Kevin Butler?

I Agree with what your saying no argument from me, I own the PS3 but I was just pointing out some may like the IDEA of upgrade's over time than all at once. say the arcade than add the Harddrive at a later time, than add the wifi later.

for me I would not do that that's why to me it would be cheaper just to go with the elite xbox360 over upgrade's over time.

if i was going to get an Elite that's what i would do.



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100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

buzzard on 20 October 2009

LMAO@Msoft making more money than Nintendo and even more LMAO@Msoft saying that Sony makes more money than Nintendo



Lord Flashheart on 20 October 2009
Ail said:

Microsoft : we generate more $ per customers because we charge for Internet connection while our competitors give it for free and we sell proprietary accessories that cost an arm and a leg...( 100$ wifi anyone ?)

 

Hurrah !

Woah! Microsoft are charging me for my internet connection?

I thought it was Sky?



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mtofu on 20 October 2009

paying $50 for Live is a pain in the ass... and i couldn't justify buying Live for 100 (even more than that in Canada). hopefully once we hit that price point all multiplayer games will have lan support.

as a sony fanboy, this can only mean good things.



ultraslick on 20 October 2009

I dont actually care that live is $50 a year. I have the money to spend.. but it is the principle of the matter. Everytime it comes to renewing my live subscription, I consider not doing it and just ditching the 360.
If it goes to $100, I am absolutely done with Microsoft.. at least until next gen. And I am sure a lot of gamers would feel the same way, especially with the alternative being a PS3.

With that said, I am sure he just chose his words poorly, MS would have to be insane to INCREASE the price of live.



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