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Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.



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SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.



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ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.



SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.

something i have never understood is what are you supposed to do if you are at your friends house and you had like four or five beers in the span of you hanging out with them for a couple hours? are you expected to not drive home?



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ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.

Lol alright I guess that's fair. Do you have kids?



angrypoolman said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.

something i have never understood is what are you supposed to do if you are at your friends house and you had like four or five beers in the span of you hanging out with them for a couple hours? are you expected to not drive home?

Well, if you are tipsy, your friend should offer to let you crash there. or you can call a taxi.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

ironman said:
angrypoolman said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.

something i have never understood is what are you supposed to do if you are at your friends house and you had like four or five beers in the span of you hanging out with them for a couple hours? are you expected to not drive home?

Well, if you are tipsy, your friend should offer to let you crash there. or you can call a taxi.

Even if you feel completely sober, if you get pulled over, you are most likely going to blow over the legal limit.



angrypoolman said:
ironman said:
angrypoolman said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
ironman said:
SimonSaysFYou said:
Lol alright I can see that this thread has switched gears to actual DUIs instead of its intended subject. One thing about this that has always bothered me is that there are many people out there who have driven drunk at least once in their life, yet are so quick to judge people who have gotten caught. I'm no saint, I know that, but I'm not some fucked up criminal who committed a crime against humanity either. I went to jail, payed the fines, and went to classes. It sucked but that's just the way it is. So to all of you who are so hellbent on calling me an "idiot" or saying that what I did was inexcusable, it was a MISTAKE. And if I was the only one in the car at the time I would not have even gotten the DUI in the first place. So please, shut the hell up and stop being so damn judgemental about my character.

I realize I'm only 20 and still very immature, but I'm not asking for sympathy here, just your opinions on parenting.

Actually, you are asking for advice on how to deal with your parents. You may not have actually been drunk, but per the law, you were. I personally think the law needs to be revised, but until MADD is crushed, it won't be, it will just keep getting more strict. Anyway, you drove with a suspended license, and THAT is where you went wrong. Now your parents are driving you everywhere and keeping you from driving yourself so your license does not get suspended even longer. They are doing you a favor, you would do well to appreciate that.


Thank you for at least being understanding, unlike half of the rest of the people here.

Anyway, I see your point that they are in fact doing me a favor, and I should be grateful for all the help they've given me (I am, trust me), but doesn't taking the keys away seem a little 'too' parental for a 20 year old?

Alright I'll come up with a valid worst case scenario: Say I continue to drive anyway, despite their disapproval of it (they've always disapproved, but they didn't take the keys away until now), and I do get pulled over a second time...what happens to them? Absolutely NOTHING. They kick me out and they don't have to worry about driving me or the criminal proceedings. That'd simply be the end of it. So in actuality, it's easier for them to just let me drive. I'm the only one taking a risk here.

yes, but you are living in their house, and they feel responsible for you. Just wait it out (what do you have, like a month). And when you get you license back, don't drive after you drink, unless you also drink a lot of water and eat food.

something i have never understood is what are you supposed to do if you are at your friends house and you had like four or five beers in the span of you hanging out with them for a couple hours? are you expected to not drive home?

Well, if you are tipsy, your friend should offer to let you crash there. or you can call a taxi.

Even if you feel completely sober, if you get pulled over, you are most likely going to blow over the legal limit.

Like I keep saying, that is a problem with the law, I never drink alcohol and drive so I don't have to worry about it. Even if you think the law is flawed, it is still the law.



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Your parents are totally in the right.

As long as you are in someones house - parents, dormmates, ect, you have to abide by rules. It's very obvious you are an irresponsible person that cannot make rational decisions. I do not fault your parents at all for the course of action they've taken.

They are doing the most reasonable, intelligent thing in light of your utter stupidity and disregard for the law. My advise would be to abide by their rules, because if you don't, your headed for a few decades of major fail. Having DUIs AND being underage is not a combination for rampant success.

As for the beers and driving question:

If you are drinking at all, do NOT drive. No exceptions. The law can and will usually have probable cause by poor driving to pull you over. If they have probable cause for a traffic stop, you will probably get charged with something even if it's not a DUI.



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