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heruamon on 17 October 2009

A two page article, and people focus on ONE leading question. The reporter asked him:

"This will be the first holiday season this generation that Sony and Microsoft will be competing with similar price points—not to mention the Wii’s new price cut. How much of a concern is that for Microsoft?"

He answered factually...I must say, from 2 years ago when Aaron use to put his foot in the mouth alot, he's really mellowed and learn to tackle questions like these much better.



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slowmo on 17 October 2009
eggs2see said:
slowmo said:
Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
eggs2see said:

New user, long time reader.  I stopped reading after page 9 as i wanted to share this with anyone still reading.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

What this chart is showing you is the sales of each console from their respective release dates, so this is a more true indication of how consoles are actually fairing.


No thats what Sony fanboys pull out whenever they get told they're still in last place.  It's been brought up for 3 years, there has been hundreds of threads dedicated to it and still it's spinning figures to make a given situation to appear different.  There is no truth in that chart, its just denial of the current situation which is what actually matters.  The only time that chart would have any bearing is if the price cuts, economy and a hundred other factors that influence sales had been the same across the timescale the chart covered, which they aren't.

Don't mean to blast you on your first post but a long time reader should really know better than posting that link imo.

It shows that at the same point in the consoles lifetime, the PS3 is ahead by over 3 million sales. It isn't "spinning" anything.

It's not exactly lying...

There is another one though, kinda like the alligned launches one. If you count all PS360 consoles sold since PS3 launched, 360 is leading. (Last time i checked it was, anyway...)

It's spin and I'm not having this discussion with you if you cannot understand why thats the case.  Perhaps saying there is no truth is harsh but thats my belief when people have to manipulate a graph to get a result they want.  Spinning is not lying by the way which is maybe why you didn't understand the concept of my post.

I personally agree with heruamon and suspect a rat in a "newbie" posting such a link.  There is no point debating the link, it's been done to death on here and never ends well.  Finally the discussion is about LTD figures which means that link isn't even relevant to the discussion.

Uhh, geez you have your knickers in a knot now don't you? I didn't manipulate any charts, nor am i "spinning" anything.  Simply goto "Charts", then "Hardware from launch". VGChartz have it there for the world to see. So please, leave your abusive comments to yourself, as i stated i was simply adding it to the discussion. Just because you and many other long term readers have seen the chart a million times doesnt mean that all the new users who join here every day have.

Think what you like I care not mate.  I didn't actually say anything abusive to you at all, if you plan on staying I suggest you learn to read peoples posts.  I simply stated that particular chart has been and will continue to be used over and over again by Sony fanboys, I stand by that statement.  I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt by not just calling you out for the blatant trolling alt account you probably are......

 



1337 Gamer on 17 October 2009

God this thread is good. Fanboys (on all sides) are totally getting their panties in a bunch haha i love it. Definatly shows the common sense (or lack of it) of the users on this website. Keep it up guys its interesting to read



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johnsobas on 17 October 2009

well he only mentions NPD in the interview so i guess he's talking about the US, and at least in that I'm sure he's right.



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 18 October 2009

you know, fuck the ltd sales. they dont mean shit to us now cause we dont know what the fuck they are going to be! what we can see though is the sales that are happening NOW! and thats the only thing anyone should realy be looking at! from where im sitting microsoft really have nothing to boast about and i really dont wanna give reasons because it will make this thread even worse than it is! and also its negative towards the 360 and there are ALOT of 360 fans around here...



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legendarysaiyanbroly on 18 October 2009
Jeronimo66 said:
placidcasual said:
Keep telling yourselves that, Microsoft.


OKAYYYYYYY! Microsoft's word versus some guy, Microsoft a company that makes about 50 billion dollars in revenue anually versus some guy that probably doesn't even make 50 thousand dollars in a year, mmmmmm I wonder who I would bet on.

 

Wow, cool down, "jeronimo"! Is it that time of the month 4u again, or u're just the regular 360 flaming troll?

 

 



heruamon on 18 October 2009

I'm just wondering how many people actually even read the article before commenting on the thread...lol.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

vitoaf27 on 18 October 2009

^Not many actually read ANY article before they comment on it. It's just a fact of life, unfortunately.



Reasonable on 18 October 2009

^^
I'm not sure how many people even read the original post never mind any links. The amount of times you see a wild response to the title of the post that's completely wrong is amazing.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Alby_da_Wolf on 18 October 2009
johnsobas said:
well he only mentions NPD in the interview so i guess he's talking about the US, and at least in that I'm sure he's right.

Yes. I'm persuaded too that XB360 has very high probabilities to outsell PS3 in USA for the rest of this gen. Even trying to extrapolate current PS3 sales and weekly gap to paint the most optimistic picture for Sony, it's quite evident that PS3 can outsell XB360 in Others, if it does things right, and keep on outselling it in Japan, but in America XB360 quickly restores its weekly lead even after the biggest PS3 spikes.



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