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cool48 said:
mrpapaye said:
cool48 said:
If you guys think the graphics on a 25GB Blu-Ray are the same as a 9GB DVD, then the graphics on the DS are as good as the graphics on the PSP.

wow, you really have no clue at all. :)


 What are you talking about?


He means you have no clue about how graphics work and how which one is better

 

currently, ps3 and xbox are equal, so i guess by your standards ds has same graphics as psp



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Lost tears of Kain said:
cool48 said:
mrpapaye said:
cool48 said:
If you guys think the graphics on a 25GB Blu-Ray are the same as a 9GB DVD, then the graphics on the DS are as good as the graphics on the PSP.

wow, you really have no clue at all. :)


What are you talking about?


He means you have no clue about how graphics work and how which one is better

 

currently, ps3 and xbox are equal, so i guess by your standards ds has same graphics as psp

I sure do!

 



Dallinor said:
The fully uncompressed audio sounds cool. The sound is so pure from the source that they have to edit out the clicks/noises etc. people make with their mouths while speaking.

Not to bash it or anything, but hasn't that been done since always in voice recording?

 



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NJ5 said:
Dallinor said:
The fully uncompressed audio sounds cool. The sound is so pure from the source that they have to edit out the clicks/noises etc. people make with their mouths while speaking.

Not to bash it or anything, but hasn't that been done since always in voice recording?

 


I'm not sure.

Things I do know:

It hasn't been done on previous Metal Gear Solid games, becuase the dev says it's new to them.

They spent 6 months doing voice overs.

He says the MGS soundteam is 'hardcore' and that they are creating an award winning audio for the game.

The audio is clearer then other games because it isnt compressed into the MP3 format.

 



 

Uncompressed audio is very nice, but with most people using their tv speakers it won't really make a difference to the majority of the game's players.

There's no way they are actually going to have 50GB worth of gameplay, so something on there is taking up a lot of (probably unnecessary) space...

On a side note - is the game still pretty much monochrome? Have any screens with color been released yet?

(If any of you want to reply with "but that's what deserts look like!", you should know that I live in one. We have color!)



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i mean it's nice to have uncompressed audio and tons of FMV, but all it's doing to Sony is destroying every chance they have to win the console war. The amount of people that actually care about that is quite small.



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cool48 said:
mrpapaye said:
cool48 said:
If you guys think the graphics on a 25GB Blu-Ray are the same as a 9GB DVD, then the graphics on the DS are as good as the graphics on the PSP.

wow, you really have no clue at all. :)


 What are you talking about?


Maybe cool48 is talking about how some of the Blu-Ray discs he has seen have really nice pictures printed on them?



cool48 said:
If you guys think the graphics on a 25GB Blu-Ray are the same as a 9GB DVD, then the graphics on the DS are as good as the graphics on the PSP.

 

Seriously dude, you don't know what you're talking about. Graphics are not defined by storage directly. 



Uncompressed sound would make no difference to me, because my console's just plugged into the tv. I doubt I'd be able to tell.

The fact that people are moving from cd to mp3 shows most people aren't that interested in sound quality, even when, with music, that's the entire point of the product!!

Super Metroids soundtracks is still one of my favourites for computre games, and you could probably fit that on quater of a floppy disk.



cool48 said:
If you guys think the graphics on a 25GB Blu-Ray are the same as a 9GB DVD, then the graphics on the DS are as good as the graphics on the PSP.

Graphics are ALSO LIMITED BY MEMORY AND PROCESSORS. Is it so hard to understand? The DS has RAM and processors on the 5th gen level. The PSP has them on the 6th gen level. THAT'S why the graphics on the PSP are greater.

If that isn't enough proof, look at the N64 vs the PS1. In-game graphics on the PS1 and N64 are about the same, DESPITE the latter having smaller games. The PS1 has 2MB of system RAM and 1MB of VRAM. Hence only 3MB of game data could run at one time (especially since in-game compression was almost unheard of then).

And before you start thinking the capacity will kill the 360, keep in mind that DVD9 costs pennies to make. The N64 carts cost a lot more than that, usually $25. It was the cost that made developers leave, not the capacity.

So the blu-ray drive CANNOT give the PS3 greater graphics than the 360, since their RAM is about the same size. The Cell can give it greater graphics, but that would happen with blu-ray or DVD9. 



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