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justinian on 10 October 2009
Netyaroze said:
Germany is not a small market ofourse US is the big Fish in the Tank but Europe is not far behind I would say both on the same Level. And Germany is the second biggest market for Video Games in Europe. So it is the fifth biggest market in the World. A lot of Americans forget how many countries in Europe exists. So there are some other markets like France,Spain,Italy,Netherlands,Sweden,Finland,Poland,Denmark,Belgium, Czech republic, Austria, Switzerland,Portugal,Norway,Hungary, and then the other world wide markets like Australia, South Africa, Israel, Korea, China, Russia and a lot more.

I wouldnt count germany as a small market. Its a market which its heavy advertised and important. And infact Sony did NOTHING for the PS3 in Terms of Advertising I mean Nothing I can remember 2 TV adds in PS3 life that was Little Big Planet and Uncharted. I was even surprised that PS3 is on Number one I always thought it was on number three until now. that it managed to outsell Wii in August was more surprising to me than September. Sony did not much in Advertising fo Germany. Less then the other two Competitors (I speak just for the home consoles because there are a lot of PSP ads everywhere)


I am not so sure US is the big fish. Go through the weekly sales chart and you will see EU sells more consoles than NA.

Also the growth potential is far higher there as states emerge (in a commercial sense).

You are right about many europeans buying console in/from the UK with gives a false reflection on UK sales.

Germany has a bigger population and economy than the UK, again with potential to take it's spot if it has not already done so.

Sales in euros greater than sales in $US.

Sony must rule europe and asia. Let MS keep NA. The biggest slice of the pie is in Europe. 

 



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MikeB on 10 October 2009
bluthunder said:
PS3 close in September, but some other things seem off by a lot:

GFK September 2009 - VGC August 30-Oct 03, 2009:

PS3: 88,000 - 80,148
Wii: 31,200 - 54,168
360: 16,300 - 31,955

GFK August 2009 - VGC August 02-29, 2009

PS3: 36,000 - 12,013
Wii: 35,000 - 40,678
360: 13,200 - 17,505


I hope this will improve in the future, Europe as a whole is even more difficult to track (and even more so SCEE areas as a whole, as well as parts of Asia and some other minor markets).

I'm looking forward to comparingfuture 2009 fiscal year reports (XBOX vs PS).



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Crashdown77 on 11 October 2009
puffy said:
Crashdown77 said:

Dateline: Berlin, Germany, 9 October, 2009 14:00 GMT (AP)

Germany Officially Changes Country Name to "GerSony", Berlin to Change to "Jelly Donut"

By: Hans Geschprectetmitihnengefelhterfehrnsehr

On the heels of the amazing sales brought about by the reinventing of the entire video game/social/world community with the new "Slim" model of the vaunted Playstation 3 video game/supercomputer/Matrix system, German Chancellor Franz "Franzer the Panzer" Helgenspeilerkatzehundenschulterngefehltenberger has made an executive decision regarding the nomenclature of his Vaterland. The decision was made late in the night last night, as "the Panzer" sat in his Schlafzimmer, playing his early copy of Uncharted 2 (Sony realeased review copies to all world leaders, hoping to get an endorsement from the newest Nobel laureate for umm . . . talking, Barack Obama) a revelation came to him to change his country to reflect the greatest company, consumer electronics device, and the greatest invention since the Tesla Coil (screw you Edison!). "Henceforth" said Franz between bites of Schitzel, "our country will be known as GerSony (Deutschonyland in the native tongue) and we will be the standard bearers to bring about a new world order of video gaming! Und keine Eier!" This announcement was met with much rejoicing as the millitary piled truckloads of Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii games outside of the Chancellor's offices and burned them in effigy. In a lesser, but related announcement, Berlin will officially be known as "Jelly Donut", to avoid confusion with visiting foreign dignataries.

 

Post of the year?

Thanks for saying that! I put a lot of my heart, soul, and a good chunk of my leftover German vocab from freshman year in college into this. I left out the part about Germany's "hatred of all things inferior" though, I thought that might be over the top.



hanafuda on 11 October 2009

@ sami

Be careful how you word that. You may get threatened with a perma ban, and if that happens you start making posts like that Stever guy on the first page.



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MikeB on 11 October 2009
letsdance said:

30% is a small descrepancy? Man where do you work? If they consider 30% a small descrepency too I'd like to work the register. (40% in case of the 360)

I am more worried about the ratios of under- and overtracking of systems combined. If one system is 40% overtracked and another 40% undertracked this compounds an inaccurate climate for sales comparisons.

If all systems were about 10% undertracked or either overtracked it's not much of an issue.



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shanbcn on 11 October 2009

We didn't get LTD figures which is strange.



Spankey on 12 October 2009
MikeB said:
letsdance said:

30% is a small descrepancy? Man where do you work? If they consider 30% a small descrepency too I'd like to work the register. (40% in case of the 360)

I am more worried about the ratios of under- and overtracking of systems combined. If one system is 40% overtracked and another 40% undertracked this compounds an inaccurate climate for sales comparisons.

If all systems were about 10% undertracked or either overtracked it's not much of an issue.

Yeah the combined ratios might compound hugely, but if there are any huge inacuracies, it'll be caused by the fault of the sources of the data, not the complilation of the data by this site.

They can only work with the data they get after all.



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Lafiel on 12 October 2009

^ that is not correct

the source(s) only give them the amount they sold and vgchartz applies some sort of multiplier (of course it's a bit more complicated calculation than that) to get a picture of the whole market ..

if numbers differentiate enormously from commercial trackers (which use more sources and have a bit more experience with the market they are tracking), then that suggests the assumption, that the multiplier vgchartz chose might not be an accurate enough one