Ok, it looks like we're getting things straight... maybe? :-S

To answer your good question (why didn't you ask like that before?!), I don't claim (read carefully) that the Pope said that, I replied highstarway101 just in case the Pope actually said that (because it was highstarway101, not me, who put that paraphrased quote), but, whether he said that or not, I disagree with that statement AND I disagree with papacy.

I think that is clear in my posts, I'm not explaining something new and other users know that. I'm sorry that you didn't understand.

Everything's all right, now (besides you don't agree with me)?

@Final Fan: How i read the original post you're arguing about, said pretty much nothing on the matter. That's the most likely reason why nobody (else) commented it.
It did indicate that Baroque_dude disagreed with JPII:s view on evolution and religion.

But, he did critisise pope (and Vatican), i would guess, about having a political role, which is valid critisism. However, extending the viewpoint a little further, the same goes for all the religion.

First, I want to clear something up:  you've said several times now that the others have not said anything like what I have been saying, which you claim is due to the fact that they understood you and I did not.  In fact, it was primarily because they were participating in a different discussion!  They were talking about different subject matter; HWS101's post (and your reply) were not relevant IIRC.  

Now, when you say something like this:  
"Some people (both Christians and atheists/agnostics) understand this very well while others seem to keep smashing their heads against a wall, by saying that is compatible. Thank you, Pope, for one more of your stellar contributions to Christianity."

Your post gives every appearance of assuming that the Pope indeed made the claim that you now say you only argued against without attributing to the Pope, instead of merely saying "If he said XXX it would be stupid because etc.".  Otherwise, even granting that your disagreements with the papacy may cause you to take random potshots at the Pope in your posts, there would be no explanation for saying "one MORE (sarcasm)".  Assuming that something is true implies that you are taking the position that it is true; and nowhere do you even hint that you are only responding to HWS101's paraphrase without agreeing that it is correct.  

But hey, let's forget all that.  Again, highwaystar101 made no such claim.  Your "it's OK to believe IN evolution" strawman came from out of nowhere; HWS101's paraphrase makes no such statement, nor does it imply that.  

So, although I'm happy to know that you don't claim the Pope said that, I'm still upset that you say HWS101 said the Pope said that.  

Again, I don't care if the Pope said that or not, since I disagree with that statement either way.

However, my post didn't contain "random potshots" at the Pope. I responded upon a supposed statement by the Pope, quoted by highwaystar101, and that's it.

"Obviously there are a few problems between the two but I believe it was pope John Paul II who said something like...

"Evolution and the big bang are perfectly compatible theories with Christianity, as long as long as you accept god was the creator then why couldn't evolution and the big bang just be his methods of creation?".

I think that was severely paraphrased as it was from memory, but you get the point."

He posted it as a point of reference for Christianity, a quote with... authority for us to follow? Like he's saying that both Christianity and evolution are compatible. That's why I included in my post some of the reasons why I don't accept the Pope as a biblical authority and everybody understood that.

If he, the Pope, didn't say that, ok, I can't blame him for that. Further discussion wasn't focus on the Pope and evolution, but only in the Bible and institutions, etc. and that's what some of us have been discussin here, lately.

I'm not blaming highstarway101, he just tried to post something helpful, but you keep jabbing and jabbing at me.

Even bdbdbd came out to point out what's going on here.

No, you responded to a statement that highwaystar101 DID NOT MAKE. The statement HWS101 posted, regardless of connection to the Pope or lack thereof, WAS NOT what you argued against. You made up something about "believing IN evolution" and argued against it.

I think you're both crazy.

Oh my head...

You don't understand.

Let's stop here, ok? Thank you.

I no longer think Baroque is crazy because he wants to stop.

Without commenting on it, I'd like to repost the relevant parts so people can judge my allegation that what HWS101 said isn't what you argued against:

highwaystar101
"Evolution and the big bang are perfectly compatible theories with Christianity, as long as long as you accept god was the creator then why couldn't evolution and the big bang just be his methods of creation?"

Baroque_Dude
"One may embrace creationism or not, but if you call yourself a Christian (that means not only accepting Christ as your Saviour, but also accepting what He taught and He didn't change the Old Testament nor the Creation account), it's utterly stupid to believe "in" evolution. I repeat, I'm not referring to discuss if evolution is true or not, I'm pointing out that saying to be Christian and believing in evolution isn't simply compatible."

Final-Fan
"I think you're putting way too much on the phrase "believing IN evolution". Most people who might say yes to "do you believe in evolution?" really mean that they are confident in the correctness of the theory, not that they subscribe dogmatically to some mythical faith revolving around evolution."

Baroque_Dude
"That's why I put "believe "in" evolution. Do you see that?"

Again, I just wanted to put that so people can remember what we were even talking about.

And I just wanted to comment here so people can see that you copy and paste according to your convenience...

My supposed last reply WASN'T that. Stop manipulating. I already replied you on that and everybody CAN check my posts and realize how strangely you're acting.