The previous Gran Turismos sold well because of the massive casual audience of the first two Playstations, and those types of gamers are not going to be paying 400€+ for a machine that plays games. Part five will probably be a million seller, heck maybe one of the 3-4 5M+ sellers the PS3 will end up having during its lifetime, but even that's streching it a bit.

The GameCube and X-Box were better and they dominated. Don't you remember?

And Halo3 is bundled in europe, so what is your point?

O really? I Cant find that bundle. :s

ITBobby,
http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_Review-Pack-XBOX-360---HALO-3--Fotos-Inside-_852645
have fun.

When your New IP has a name you can hype it ...

So you have 3 new IPs in 6 months from third parties, that sounds a lot like the Gamecube to me

are you blind? why 3?
there are over 16 games from 3rd party developers, which coming to PS3.

Eternal Sonata coming to PS3.
Ace combat6 coming to PS3.
Lost Planet coming to PS3.
Rockstar creating L.A Noire for PS3.
Rockstar creating New IP for PS3.
Cellius creating games for PS3.
Sega creating Jakuza3 for PS3.
Konami creating Coded Arms for PS3.
Nippon Ichi creating Disgaea3 for PS3.
Free Radical Design creating Haze for PS3.
Atlus creating Persona4 for PS3.
Tri ace making Star Ocean4 for PS3.
Namco making Time Crisis4 for PS3.
Sega creating Valkyrie of the Battlefield for PS3.
Digi-Guys creating WarDevil for PS3.
Quantic Dream creating Heavy Rain for PS3.

What is your problem? You can`t deal, that 3rd party developers supporting PS3, no matter what sales are now?

First off let's eliminate multiplatform games (Eternal Sonata, Ace Combat 6, Lost Planet), games which have not officially been announced (Rockstar's "New" IP, Cellius' games) and games that don't have a platform announced (Star Ocean 4). Now, let's eliminate games where the developer has never released a game before (WarDevil).

Now we have this list

LA Noire (Initially announced July 18 2005)
Yakuza (Announced July 17 2007 after being in development for over a year)
Coded Arms (Annoucned May 9th 2006)
Disgaea (Announced July 17 2007 after being in development for over a year)
Haze (announced november 22 2005)
Heavy Rain (announced May 9th 2006)

Which leaves us with Time Crisis (a port of an arcade game) and Valkyrie of the Battlefield ... Its like you're trying to make my point for me. Where are the announcements from third parties increasing support for the PS3 in 2008? Where are announcements from third parties that they're so pleased with the sales of their games on the PS3 that they are (immediately) working on sequels? These were very common things to hear developers say about the PS2, and yet we hear the complete opposite messages about the PS3; but somehow they are magically going to see strong support in 2009.

did you even do what i said?  Align launches in each territory seperately and you will see the gamecube has a significant lead in America (about 350k) and Japan (about 310k), and PS3 has a very very slight edge in Europe (100k at most). 

 I already pointed out the 1 flaw is that with aligning launches is that in Europe PS3 hasn't had a holiday season yet.

@john, i have been caught before using seperate charts to look at the picture as a whole (mrstickball and about the XB360 to XB comparison...though i had to at the time because the charts were not working and Jp XB info was missing)

If you notice in EU the PS3 would be vastly ahead because the info is skewed with the 'others' section where PS3 was released well before the PAL areas.

But that is not the point. The point is you can't add up the seperate differences by region to get a picture of the whole, you can use it to say "here the PS3 is tracking ahead of the GC" or vice versa, but you should look at the All section for a WW comparison, because that shows you how many consoles were sold irrespective of whether they were available in all regions.

The GC was actually released in September for Jp, November for America, and the following May for elsewhere, so that gives it an advantage when looking at seperate regions because in Japan the launch hype had time to die out before christmas, and in Eu the GC (at 9 months old in Eu) would be just finishing christmas,(admitedly the chart shows a rather unnsuccessful xmas, but there is a rise).......so extra sale there thus giving it one region (America)with launch+xmas crushed together (restricts sales because they would be high at xmas whether it was launch or not) and TWO regions where, by this point in it's life, had both christmas and launch seperate.

What you should do to compare the two systems, is look at WW sales, for which the PS3 is ahead by 500k.

Ok i see what you're saying now, the others section is kinda screwed up. If you align launches the PS3 sits at 0 for about 15 weeks for some reason, and as you said the gamecube would be heading toward holiday season now while PS3 hasn't quite made it there yet.

Looks like PS3 is tracking ahead quite a bit in Europe, but actually it is still tracking behind in America and Japan. They launched in the same month in America, and GC launched 1 month earlier in Japan (shouldn't make a big difference yet) yet it is tracking behind.