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Slimebeast on 06 October 2009

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.



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Khuutra on 06 October 2009
Slimebeast said:

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.

Never played Morrowind, don't think Oblivion is the greatest.

There's your answer.



themanwithnoname on 06 October 2009
Slimebeast said:

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.

Well, this is a BioWare thread. Start a Bethesda thread and we can talk about those and Fallout 3.



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Zlejedi on 06 October 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Khuutra said:
For God's sake did you just call Obsidian Entertainment second string developers?

Technically, they were second string, since Bioware opted out of the project, and they replaced them. I didn't mean they were shitty. Second string in this instance, meant they were a replacement developer.

...but yes, they are much worse developers than Bioware, I'm afraid.

Baldur's Gate 2 and KoToR saw to that.

Obsidian is good though, but their games list is FAR from the prestige of Bioware or Bethesda.

 Sorry but did you just said that studio which has been created by people working previously as Black Isles aka the greatest RPG makers in known history of man is less prestigious than the makers of dumbed down console wrpgs from Bethsheda crapworks who haven't made good game since Morrowind times?



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RageBot on 06 October 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
RageBot said:
darthdevidem01 said:
shio said:
themanwithnoname said:
RageBot said:
huaxiong90 said:
reaver_x said:
is this game story driven??? b/c thats the deciding factor for me.

One thing BioWare are known for is the deep stories in their games. So yes.

Nope, they were known for it during the BG2 days, and it's almost a decade since than.

If you don't think KOTOR and Mass Effect have deep stories, I'd like to know what you've been smoking.

Kotor and Mass Effect have shallow stories, and extremely linear. Planescape: Torment is a game with a deeps story, not the shallow crap that Kotor and ME have as stories.

If you actually played great WRPGs, you would agree with me.

I disagree, KOTOR is the pinnacle of WRPG's in every way just like Final Fantasy 6 is the pinnacle of JRPG's in every way.....ofcourse FF13 will be that pinnacle soon, but anyway.

Are you serious?

Man, you really lack experience in both of these genres.

Xenogears' story is, in mine and a lot of other people opinion the best story in a JRPG, and the same with PS:T and WRPG, it's a shame you miss such great games, who's story just blows KotOR and FF6's stories out of the water.

 

Hold it right there, do not even compare KOTOR and Xenogears. Two different sub genres and both great games. No offense but but keep those games away from each and put Xenogears against another JRPG.

 



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sapient on 06 October 2009

good. I already have it pre-ordered.



 

vlad321 on 06 October 2009
Slimebeast said:

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.

Because Oblivion sucked the big one. Morrowing was pretty good though and pretty awesome to play through. Maybe their next game will be good again.



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Slimebeast on 06 October 2009
vlad321 said:
Slimebeast said:

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.

Because Oblivion sucked the big one. Morrowing was pretty good though and pretty awesome to play through. Maybe their next game will be good again.

No. Oblivion was even better than Morrowind. I give Oblivion 99% and Morrowind 97%.

I'm glad you like Morrowind at least. Did u play the expansions Morrowind too?



largedarryl on 06 October 2009
Slimebeast said:

It bothers me that there's so many members discussing Bioware games, and there's obviously ppl who are knowledgeable in WRPGs on this site after all, but in all these years there's been not much discussion about Bethesda, Morrowind and Oblivion - the greatest of them all.

It's mainly because Bethesda has been on a decline in games since Daggerfall.  It's a shame that Morrowind was a fantastic game, hidden in the shadow of a better Elder Scroll's game, only to have the basterdized version of Morrowind to be released in 2006 (and no, Patrick Stewart couldn't even save it).

EDIT: Although I will admit Fallout 3 is a slight recovery from Oblivion, but I was extremely annoyed with the destruction of Black-isle gem.

 



darthdevidem01 on 06 October 2009
RageBot said:
darthdevidem01 said:
shio said:
themanwithnoname said:
RageBot said:
huaxiong90 said:
reaver_x said:
is this game story driven??? b/c thats the deciding factor for me.

One thing BioWare are known for is the deep stories in their games. So yes.

Nope, they were known for it during the BG2 days, and it's almost a decade since than.

If you don't think KOTOR and Mass Effect have deep stories, I'd like to know what you've been smoking.

Kotor and Mass Effect have shallow stories, and extremely linear. Planescape: Torment is a game with a deeps story, not the shallow crap that Kotor and ME have as stories.

If you actually played great WRPGs, you would agree with me.

I disagree, KOTOR is the pinnacle of WRPG's in every way just like Final Fantasy 6 is the pinnacle of JRPG's in every way.....ofcourse FF13 will be that pinnacle soon, but anyway.

Are you serious?

Man, you really lack experience in both of these genres.

Xenogears' story is, in mine and a lot of other people opinion the best story in a JRPG, and the same with PS:T and WRPG, it's a shame you miss such great games, who's story just blows KotOR and FF6's stories out of the water.

 

I havn't played them so I can't say

its too late to play them now anyway

from the WRPG's & JRPG's I have played, they were the pinnacles



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