@Mafkka

What do those games have in common? There casual!

Wii sports > Sims sales

PC are not gaming platforms,thats an secondary option.

But you said it yourself, like so many before you in this thread. PC is a platform where games are released. And if a single software is released on multiple platforms, its multiplatform. Its undisputable facts.

But we've already established it in this thread. PC/360 is multiplatform. /thread

So what you are saying then is that VGC is bigger than the gaming industry as a whole?

Not at all, try reading my last post again, I explained it there.

Come on. It doesn't matter that a lot of the conversations on VGC only pertain to consoles, you are still ignoring the games available on the PC.

Hardly, if a person were to say the game is not a PLATFORM exclusive, they would be right, but 90 percent of the conversations that take place here and in other forums, even among friends and colligues, are refering to games that can be played exclusively on one gaming console. And that is why the OP is wrong.

Go to a pc gamer website and you will find 90% of the conversation there refers to PC games. That doesn't mean you can ignore console games. They still exist.

Never said they didn't, but many PC gamers feel that the PC is a gaming console...which it is not, anyway, look at my above explanation.

Perhaps if the sales of PC games were easier to track then we would see more PC related activity on here.

That would still not change the fact that many conversations (which is what the OP is refering to, sales conversations on this site) are about "Console Exclusives".

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Anyways you can't just change the definition of words, such a platform, and exclusive, just because you think the PC is negligible.

Whoa! I am not redefining words here, Do you understand the diferance between "Console Exclusive" and "Multiplat Exclusive"?

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Console exclusive is a term that you can use. But you have to get to a point before you can use it with any relevence. Encompass gaming as a whole and then narrow down your categories.

Erm, no. There is a destinct diferance between "console exclusive" and "multiplat exclusive" Console exclusive is more relevant because as I said before, most people asking about what games are exclusive to a console, are not looking at the PC as a viable gaming option for themselves. Also, most sales conversations do not factor in the PC game sales to total game sales... and if they do, they should not,mainly because you cannot claim a game does not count as a console game, and yet, take all it's sales numbers to bolster your own.

You can't use the term console exclusive in a broad sense because it ignores other gaming avenues such as the PC.

Actually, it is you who wants to use "Console Exclusive" in a broad term, I narrowed it down for you, the PC does not fit the Console parameters, and therefore does not fit the term "Console Exclusive"

Like I said before the term console exclusive is mainly used by xbox fanboys to beef up their list of 'exclusives'.

That is very true, but see, the problem here is, they are right, and you don't like that. Tough, you CANNOT try to redefine a word so a group of fanatics doesn't get their way, that actually makes YOU a fanatic, and puts YOU down to their level.

It's sad, and reeks of desperation when used in the wrong context.

Which is why I would advise you not to use the terms "Console Exclusive", and "Multiplat Exclusive" interchangeably.

MAFKKA said:
I understand Your definition of Console Exclusive, however it can not co-exsist in a world where software is measured in Exclusive/Multiplatform. To use semantics and claim that Exclusive/Multiplatform is measured between consoles only, is wrong. It's like you're trying to redefine Math, something absolute. But 1+1 will alwasy be 2.

Yeah... read what I have been saying the last few posts. There are two terms here. Multiplatform, and Console...do you understand the diferance between a console and a platform? The term "platform" encompasses Consoles and PCs. Wheras the term "console" can only be used to describe a console. Now pay attention cuz this is the tricky part. A Console Exclusive can only be used to describe a game that can be played on one console, and not another, A Multiplat is a game that can be played on several Platforms. I think that is what you are missing here.

I understand Your definition of Console exclusive being that we have two consoles, where Wii, PS3 and 360 exsists, of which only one can play a certain game. But since PC is a viable platform, the english language, dictionary, game developers and Sony disagrees with you, and probably MS and Nintendo aswell. Along with each and everybody on this forum that aren't to close minded to see beyond console prefrences.

The PC may be a viable platfrom, but as long as the term "Consle Exclusive" exists, and as long as people have discussions about "Console Exclusives" my point still stands. Side note, the dictionary agrees with me. I defy you to prove me wrong, because so far, the only thing you have been able to say is "you are wrong" without any proof. Now, since the dictionary agrees with me, Game devs and Sony (which kinda shows me your alliance and why you seem so hell bent on proving that I am wrong) are wrong...If they truly believe that there is no differance between "Console Exclusive" and "Multiplat"

And evertime Exclusive is mentioned on this forum, its usually Exclusive. The times Console Exclusive is mentioned, it's usually when 360 fanatics try to fight their console wars with list of games in a futile way to try and boost their console and make themselves feel all fuzzy and warm inside.

As I said, that may be true, but they are right. And you can do nothing against them because they are, I bet that just frustrates the hell outta you, knowing that your arch enemies are right. Which is why you seek to circumvent the dictionary and creat your own definition of Multiplat .

But since we've established what a platform is, there's really no way around it when defining what a Multiplatform software is, and what a Exclusive software isn't. So it reallt is /thread.

You keep saying end thread, this thread will not end until you admit I am right! It cannot end because you will then continue on your misinformed vendetta against all things MS. Now, conversly, I really don't care Which games are multiplat because A. I don't plan to play any games on the PC. and B. It could be said that PS3 fanboys are angry about the amount of "Console Exclusives" the 360 has and therefore are trying to redefine the term "Multiplatform" to encumpas the term "Console Exclusive" And that is actually where the misdirection comes into play. So in reality, it is those that seek to envelope "Console Exclusive" with "Multiplat" who are at fault here.

Anyway, We have established what a platform is, but we have also established what the diferance between "console Exclusive" and Multiplatform" is. And since most conversations here take place under the "Console Exclusive" term, The OP is incorrect. (because this is his own personal vendetta against those who speak of "Console Exclusives" instead of "Multiplat", However the OP IS correct when pertaining to "Multiplatform Exclusives" This is a destinction you have failed time and time again to grasp.

But if you want to go on, please answer my post about 13 posts back.

Refresh my memory, I'm sure I already answered it in one of my posts and I am not going to bother looking back. If you feel it has not been answered, ask the question again...although I'm sure it is misconstruing the diferance between the two terms mentioned time and time again.