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MAFKKA said:
Chairman-Mao said:
I disagree so strongly there isn't even a word for it. Yeah everyone has a PC, not everyone uses it for gaming. In fact a small percentage actually plays games. And of course I mean games like Half life, not minesweeper or solitaire.

I still consider a game thats only on one console and PC exclusive.


We've already covered that part, you need to go back and re-read the thread. But for a quick reply.

Just because YOU, as an individual, or the majority, chose to not play games on a platform, dosent make it exclusive to the one you play it on

. Platform is by definition;

  • "The [consumer electronics/electronic systems] used to play video games are known as platforms; examples of these are personal computers and video game consoles."
  • "The term "platform" refers to the specific combination of electronic or computer hardware which, in conjunction with low-level software, allows a video game to operate. The term "system" is also commonly used."

So by definition the PC is a platform, aswell as a console.. among other devices. So as established, if a software can be played on multiple platforms, the word for it would be what?

once again, stumbling on the common misconception that a platform MUST = hardware. Remeber, that in order for games to be played, they must be built on a software platform. Anyway, the platform has NOTHING to do with the term "exclusive". Exclusive basically means only one party. People who want to play gmaes like Mass Effect all have something in common, you know what it is? They must use MS Software. The hardware is irrelevant. Now, had the OP said console + PC games are multiplat, I would have to agree with him, but he too has fallen under the guise that multiplat = exclusive.

 



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ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
dsister44 said:
So LBP and Gran Turismo are no longer exclusives?

not according to MAFKKA's logic.

So am i right or wrong?

 

You are wrong. If one were to use your flawed logic, then dsister would be correct. In which case, very few games would actually be exclusive.

You can argue that a game that is exclusive to 360 and PC is a MS exclusive, that is the point I am trying to make here. I really don't know how I can spell it out any clearer than that.

 

@Shio, how nice of you to show up...but what I was saying is refering to games that are also made for the 360, Since it can only be run on a Windows platform, It is a MS exclusive.

But a game that is PS3/PC shatters that logic. How can PS3/PC be MS exclusive? It can not, since there's no such thing as MS exclusive. Its a made up word when all else failed. You cant add a definition to an absolute word when talking specific areas of use. If you want to name it something else thats fine. But the word exclusive can not be used when divided. You can call it 360/PC Only game.

And stop nitpicking, you've ignord lke 7 posts of facts. You just answer the things you see fit, because they help your case. The same thing with your made up words and definitions and false facts. Just end it already.



I think the literal (dictionary) definition of the term "non-exclusive" shouldnt be applied here..Its like saying something IS THIS because its defined like that...Its important to take all relevant factors into account.

For example:
-I can play this game on PC and its available on 360 (satisfying the legal definition of "non-exlusive")
-But if you take into account factors like the number of PS3 owners who actually bought the PC version, or the relevance of PC to the mainstream gaming community, then the term "console exclusivity" could be applied to this situation without satisfying the legal definition. However that does not mean that we discredit the existance of a PC version.

I hope this make sense...lol...english not my first lingo



MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
dsister44 said:
So LBP and Gran Turismo are no longer exclusives?

not according to MAFKKA's logic.

So am i right or wrong?

 

You are wrong. If one were to use your flawed logic, then dsister would be correct. In which case, very few games would actually be exclusive.

You can argue that a game that is exclusive to 360 and PC is a MS exclusive, that is the point I am trying to make here. I really don't know how I can spell it out any clearer than that.

 

@Shio, how nice of you to show up...but what I was saying is refering to games that are also made for the 360, Since it can only be run on a Windows platform, It is a MS exclusive.

But a game that is PS3/PC shatters that logic. How can PS3/PC be MS exclusive? It can not, since there's no such thing as MS exclusive. Its a made up word when all else failed. You cant add a definition to an absolute word when talking specific areas of use. If you want to name it something else thats fine. But the word exclusive can not be used when divided. You can call it 360/PC Only game.

And stop nitpicking, you've ignord lke 7 posts of facts. You just answer the things you see fit, because they help your case. The same thing with your made up words and definitions and false facts. Just end it already.

See thats the thing, a PS3 game on the PC is NOT an exclusive, however, a PS3 game ported to a PSP IS because both use Sony software/firmware.

I ignored 7 posts of fail because I already explained why they were wrong. Nice try though.



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ironman - The opposite of exclusive is according to the english dictionary;
divided, part, partial, shared, unlimited, unrestricted, multiple.

And what is a platform? The english dictionary defines it as, in this case, a platform that allows playback of software.

So if a software is able to be played on multiple (not exclusive) platforms (something that plays software). The word for it would be what? Even if its a OS software platform (NXE and WIN7 - two different platforms), the word would be Multiplatform.



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just for idiotic fanboys to brag


for me as long as there's an alternative choice and it's the same game. It's not exclusive for me.

Pls stop the BS and even going to the point of it being "MS" exclusive argument. My PC is not just Microsoft, that would be rude for my graphic card, my lcd, speakers, motherboard and (insert PC parts here)

Might as well call that Personal Computers are not Microsoft or (insert brand) exclusives

Mass Effect is not exclusive
FFXIV is not exclusive



 

Cross platform (multiplatform) is at first defined as software developed to work on both PC and MAC (software platforms). And such it is a multiplatform application.

So if you want to call it exclusive, you're saying that exclusive is not an absolute. I've told you, you can call it a 360/PC ONLY game. But not exclusive.



MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
dsister44 said:
So LBP and Gran Turismo are no longer exclusives?

not according to MAFKKA's logic.

So am i right or wrong?

 

You are wrong. If one were to use your flawed logic, then dsister would be correct. In which case, very few games would actually be exclusive.

You can argue that a game that is exclusive to 360 and PC is a MS exclusive, that is the point I am trying to make here. I really don't know how I can spell it out any clearer than that.

 

@Shio, how nice of you to show up...but what I was saying is refering to games that are also made for the 360, Since it can only be run on a Windows platform, It is a MS exclusive.

But a game that is PS3/PC shatters that logic. How can PS3/PC be MS exclusive? It can not, since there's no such thing as MS exclusive. Its a made up word when all else failed. You cant add a definition to an absolute word when talking specific areas of use. If you want to name it something else thats fine. But the word exclusive can not be used when divided. You can call it 360/PC Only game.

And stop nitpicking, you've ignord lke 7 posts of facts. You just answer the things you see fit, because they help your case. The same thing with your made up words and definitions and false facts. Just end it already.

You haven't considered that most pc games now are being forced to utilize the Microsoft license Games for Windows. Not to mention more games are now utilizing Windows Live (also being forced by Microsoft). If Microsoft is getting royalties from pc releases, it is still Microsoft exclusives.

At the least it may not be exclusives to us as consumers but it is exclusive to Microsoft as a business.



nofingershaha said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
dsister44 said:
So LBP and Gran Turismo are no longer exclusives?

not according to MAFKKA's logic.

So am i right or wrong?

 

You are wrong. If one were to use your flawed logic, then dsister would be correct. In which case, very few games would actually be exclusive.

You can argue that a game that is exclusive to 360 and PC is a MS exclusive, that is the point I am trying to make here. I really don't know how I can spell it out any clearer than that.

 

@Shio, how nice of you to show up...but what I was saying is refering to games that are also made for the 360, Since it can only be run on a Windows platform, It is a MS exclusive.

But a game that is PS3/PC shatters that logic. How can PS3/PC be MS exclusive? It can not, since there's no such thing as MS exclusive. Its a made up word when all else failed. You cant add a definition to an absolute word when talking specific areas of use. If you want to name it something else thats fine. But the word exclusive can not be used when divided. You can call it 360/PC Only game.

And stop nitpicking, you've ignord lke 7 posts of facts. You just answer the things you see fit, because they help your case. The same thing with your made up words and definitions and false facts. Just end it already.

You haven't considered that most pc games now are being forced to utilize the Microsoft license Games for Windows. Not to mention more games are now utilizing Windows Live (also being forced by Microsoft). If Microsoft is getting royalties from pc releases, it is still Microsoft exclusives.

At the least it may not be exclusives to us as consumers but it is exclusive to Microsoft as a business.

But since "most" is not synonym for "all". You can't say that its exclusive, which is a total word. An absolute word. Exclusive can not be ONLY in some cases and Multiple in others.



MAFKKA said:
nofingershaha said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
MAFKKA said:
ironman said:
dsister44 said:
So LBP and Gran Turismo are no longer exclusives?

not according to MAFKKA's logic.

So am i right or wrong?

 

You are wrong. If one were to use your flawed logic, then dsister would be correct. In which case, very few games would actually be exclusive.

You can argue that a game that is exclusive to 360 and PC is a MS exclusive, that is the point I am trying to make here. I really don't know how I can spell it out any clearer than that.

 

@Shio, how nice of you to show up...but what I was saying is refering to games that are also made for the 360, Since it can only be run on a Windows platform, It is a MS exclusive.

But a game that is PS3/PC shatters that logic. How can PS3/PC be MS exclusive? It can not, since there's no such thing as MS exclusive. Its a made up word when all else failed. You cant add a definition to an absolute word when talking specific areas of use. If you want to name it something else thats fine. But the word exclusive can not be used when divided. You can call it 360/PC Only game.

And stop nitpicking, you've ignord lke 7 posts of facts. You just answer the things you see fit, because they help your case. The same thing with your made up words and definitions and false facts. Just end it already.

You haven't considered that most pc games now are being forced to utilize the Microsoft license Games for Windows. Not to mention more games are now utilizing Windows Live (also being forced by Microsoft). If Microsoft is getting royalties from pc releases, it is still Microsoft exclusives.

At the least it may not be exclusives to us as consumers but it is exclusive to Microsoft as a business.

But since "most" is not synonym for "all". You can't say that its exclusive, which is a total word. An absolute word. Exclusive can not be ONLY in some cases and Multiple in others.

Ah ye old symantecs argument, you must be getting despirate. Anyway, I used "most" to cover my ass. See, while I am pretty sure that all games that are on both the PC and the 360 must be run in a MS environment, there could be one or two that do not. Anyway, those would be anomolies, all the rest are still exclusive.

 

Edit: A few fun definitions by my man Webster

Game Console - n.

"and electric device for playing VIDEO GAMES, requiring a connection to a television."

Computor - n.

"A device that computes, especially a programmable electronic machine that performs high-speed mathematical or logical operations or that assembles, stores, correlates, or otherwise processes information."

So you see, I can play your game!!! According to these definitions, a computer is by nature, NOT a console.



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