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So I was watching soccer TV today, and i heard about how the second place qaulifers for europe was going to be and the one guy... who is basically THE American expert on soccer in my opinion was livid about it.

Well he's not American but he's basically the guy that I always see talking world cup.

Saying about how he wasn't clear on if they were going to use FIFA standing to seed or some other method, but that they would seed someway... and that basically this guy was going to pay off his friends, and was biased towards "Big" countries.

What do you guys think about the way the 2nd place world cup qualfiers are announced to be "seeded" yet of no solid mention about how they will be seeded?



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Im sorry, but I dont understand the OP, but I would love to comment xD



im not quite sure what the OP is saying

are you saying that the 2nd place qualifiers are seeded but they dont know how yet?



http://www.blatantnews.com/news/fifa_announce_seeding_decision_for_world_cup_play_offs.html

I think this is what Kasz is on about.



highwaystar101 said:
http://www.blatantnews.com/news/fifa_announce_seeding_decision_for_world_cup_play_offs.html

I think this is what Kasz is on about.

Pretty much.  Found it interesting really. 

How can you decide this after the qualifers already got on the way?

I'd be quite angry if i came from a smaller nation.  Reminds me of the US' widely criticized BCS.

Although i don't know why they call it "undemocratic" since an open draw wouldn't be anymore democratic.  It would just be random.



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Yeah its a cunt. I'm from Ireland and we'll most likely be fifth highest in the Fifa rankings so we'll play a good team. If it's Russia or Croatia we're fucked, if it's France or Greece we might have a chance. I think it's an okay system as there's seeding at every other stage of the competition but for Blatter to introduce it now is really moving the goalposts.



Politics as usual. Very unfair against smaller nations.



kowenicki said:
world cup qualifying is actually biased against good to strong european nations, thats the main problem here.

You are insane. Why?



Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
world cup qualifying is actually biased against good to strong european nations, thats the main problem here.

You are insane. Why?


What I think that Kowenicki is saying is that it is unfair against strong European nations because they have an infair chance of being knocked out in favor of weaker non-european nations.

Europe is a continent that loves football, no exceptions really. The internal competition is incredibly strong (Uefa) and the continent has more nations here then for instance northern America or south Amerika... maybe even more so then Afrika I have to check on that. The result is that on paper at least we can expect a nation like Portugal, Finland, Austria, Turkey or the Czech republic to be somewhat better then the US for instance (Again, I would have to check the rankings but you get the gist). Still, Portugal, Finland, Austria, Turkey or the Czech republic seem to be not qualifying. While I'm sure that if we had cross-global competition they would sure to be in by now while it diminishes the chances for the on paper weaker US.

I know that FIFa will compensate by adjusting for the number of groups in each poule and I certainly welcome the US in the fray (with a bit of luck they might even get to enjoy the sport) but I think that Kowenicki means that it is biased like that.



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Esmoreit said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
world cup qualifying is actually biased against good to strong european nations, thats the main problem here.

You are insane. Why?


What I think that Kowenicki is saying is that it is unfair against strong European nations because they have an infair chance of being knocked out in favor of weaker non-european nations.

Europe is a continent that loves football, no exceptions really. The internal competition is incredibly strong (Uefa) and the continent has more nations here then for instance northern America or south Amerika... maybe even more so then Afrika I have to check on that. The result is that on paper at least we can expect a nation like Portugal, Finland, Austria, Turkey or the Czech republic to be somewhat better then the US for instance (Again, I would have to check the rankings but you get the gist). Still, Portugal, Finland, Austria, Turkey or the Czech republic seem to be not qualifying. While I'm sure that if we had cross-global competition they would sure to be in by now while it diminishes the chances for the on paper weaker US.

I know that FIFa will compensate by adjusting for the number of groups in each poule and I certainly welcome the US in the fray (with a bit of luck they might even get to enjoy the sport) but I think that Kowenicki means that it is biased like that.

Oh.. so that's what he meant (not the seeding or ranking of groups within Europe or anything like that.)

Well, everyone knows that Europe could have 20 good teams in the World Cup, but it wouldn't be a World cup if 2/3 of the teams would be from one continent, would it?

But okay, maybe they should't have given Asia 5 spots or whatever they have. When World Cup went from 24 teams to 32 teams, Europe only got like one spot extra.