So trade-ins are just a smaller scale of piracy. I'm willing to buy that. But it's still very similar. Piracy on a smaller scale is still piracy. If piracy was reduced to 90% would you still call it piracy? I think so.

Developers have also went to great lenghts, adding DRM, and online registration, in order to prevent piracy.

DRM has nothing to do with piracy- it's an attempt to kill second hand sales. Fortunately, the uproar over it has more or less killed it on the PC, the limited activations side of it at least. I wouldn't be surprised to see it rear its ugly head on the next set of consoles, with games being tied to the machine it was initially played on. If it doesn't, then you can thank those PC gamers who vehemently protested against it.

This. If the games don't get tagged to the same console thank thosse 1.5 million pirates of spore.

I don't understand this DRM thing at all. Why don't developers just stop allowing the game discs to be installed to the computer? That way the only computer to play the game would be the one that had the disc on hand.

Because i wanna listen to music while playing off a cd or backing up some data onto a cd or just make use of my CD drive while playing. What happens when we dont use CD media anymore and it disappears like the floppy? Many games requrie the disc to be in the tray to play but that's the easiest workaround. Just make a image and you are set.

I'm fine with not getting exclusive 1st party games and sticking with games that last forever. When the consoles get something as high quality as say.... Deus Ex (people still replay it everywhere 10 years later), X-COM (same, almost 20 years), Diablo 2, Warcraft, Starcraft, Half-Life.

Oh, yes, the consoles have NEVER had games that good. Zelda SERIES, Final Fantasy SERIES, Mario Series, Chrono Trigger, ICO, SotC, Metal Gear Solid, Secret of Mana, Symphony of the Night, LBP, Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry, Tekken Tag, Metroid: Prime, Silent Hill 2, FFTactics, Disgaea, Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, Elite Beat Agents, Tales series, Demon Souls, Virtua Fighter, God of War, Forza, Dragon Quest, and soon Dragon Age origins.

No, we console gamers sure don't know good games. We are also very simple, and unable to compete with epic long term games like X-COM. Their vast complexities astound us.

I'd MUCH rather have games from 20 years ago that last a long time, than new AAA exclusive games every other month. I'd also rather have beef jerky and a campfire instead of a professional chef and a mansion.

Yes, and I have played those games... once. ANd I was done with them. Why should I replay Zelda after getting 100%? or just about any of the other ones. Notice Tekken is a fighting game which I addressed in the post, as well as platformer games. Also Dragon Agre Origins will be far superior on the PC than on the console, so you can strike that off your list.

As for your logic of spending money = stimulating economy.

.....BY MY LOGIC, LOL!? Really, how far are we gonna take this "opinion" thing?

Maybe I'm backing up a cd so I need both drives. Maybe I won't use it at all I don't know. It would physically take up more space inconviniencing me even more, forcing me to pirate it. Piracy is a lot more about convenience than it is about the money to be honest. Also how would you deal with settings and stuff? You'd have to write to the CD every time you make the smallest change, that seems far more problematic than it should be.

P.S. When it come to morallity though trade-ins are worse then piracy. When I trade in, not only do I deprive money from the developer, I actually make money out of it, which they should have gotten. With piracy when I sahre I get nothing out of it. In tha way trading is far worse morally than piracy. I will pirate a game before I buy it used.