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jarrod on 29 November 2009
Erik Aston said:
jarrod said:
Since multiplatform games seemed to be combined, why aren't Animal Crossing and Big Brain Academy on DS/Wii? They're actually the same games...


Both of those were very much marketed and released as being different games, with different names. The fact that Nintendo did not focus on creating new content for the Wii versions is unfortunate, but I'm not going to list them as the same game.

I'd say that's a slippery slope... if that's the standard, then stuff like Modern Warfare Reflex or Winning Eleven Playmaker really needs to be separated out too.  And really DS/Wii versions of most "multiplatfom" games... I mean there's a far bigger disparity and difference in content between the DS, Wii. PSP and PS360 versions of Madden, WWE, FIFA, NFS or PES annually than there is in the DS/Wii versions of Animal Crossing or Big Brain Academy.



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perpride on 29 November 2009

Wow, there are some seriously garbage games on that list. Really shows that quality does not necessarily sell games. At the same time though, there are some amazing games on the list as well.

Very well put together. But based on what you said in the OP, shouldn't Liberty City Stories be wayyy higher on that list? I mean, I know PS2 is a 6th gen console, but the game is a seventh gen. game, NO?

ALSO, EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE THAT FINAL FANTASY XIII WILL BE JOINING THE TOP 30 ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SOON!!!



ChrisIsNotSexy on 29 November 2009
perpride said:
Wow, there are some seriously garbage games on that list. Really shows that quality does not necessarily sell games. At the same time though, there are some amazing games on the list as well.

Very well put together. But based on what you said in the OP, shouldn't Liberty City Stories be wayyy higher on that list? I mean, I know PS2 is a 6th gen console, but the game is a seventh gen. game, NO?

ALSO, EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE THAT FINAL FANTASY XIII WILL BE JOINING THE TOP 30 ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SOON!!!

You know it ^_^



perpride on 29 November 2009
ChrisIsNotSexy said:
perpride said:
Wow, there are some seriously garbage games on that list. Really shows that quality does not necessarily sell games. At the same time though, there are some amazing games on the list as well.

Very well put together. But based on what you said in the OP, shouldn't Liberty City Stories be wayyy higher on that list? I mean, I know PS2 is a 6th gen console, but the game is a seventh gen. game, NO?

ALSO, EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE THAT FINAL FANTASY XIII WILL BE JOINING THE TOP 30 ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SOON!!!

You know it ^_^

IT WILL ALSO BE THE BEST GAME ON THAT LIST. AND I DON'T MEAN IN MY OPINNION. I MEAN OBJECTIVELY!!!



darthdevidem01 on 29 November 2009

you missed modern warfare 2

the fastest selling game of all time!



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perpride on 29 November 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
you missed modern warfare 2

the fastest selling game of all time!

No, YOU missed Modern Warfare 2

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=91951

The fastest selling game of all time!!!



Erik Aston on 30 November 2009
jarrod said:
Erik Aston said:
jarrod said:
Since multiplatform games seemed to be combined, why aren't Animal Crossing and Big Brain Academy on DS/Wii? They're actually the same games...


Both of those were very much marketed and released as being different games, with different names. The fact that Nintendo did not focus on creating new content for the Wii versions is unfortunate, but I'm not going to list them as the same game.

I'd say that's a slippery slope... if that's the standard, then stuff like Modern Warfare Reflex or Winning Eleven Playmaker really needs to be separated out too.  And really DS/Wii versions of most "multiplatfom" games... I mean there's a far bigger disparity and difference in content between the DS, Wii. PSP and PS360 versions of Madden, WWE, FIFA, NFS or PES annually than there is in the DS/Wii versions of Animal Crossing or Big Brain Academy.


Same name, same game is the rule. It's about marketing and branding, NOT about actual game content, which I'm not going to bother dissecting.

The exceptions I've made to that are All-Play branded games and Modern Warfare Reflex, which are purpose brands or something similar. It is basically as if they called the game "Madden NFL 09 for Wii", as an example.

I have no idea the differences between Winning Eleven and PES, or what Playmaker is, but if it shows up under my VGC database search for Pro Evo and looks like the same thing, I am counting it, and if not, I'm not.

And that's that. If you want to nitpick, go ahead and make your own thread. Basically if I'm pushed to defend my methods, I'm just not going to bother with the thread at all. I've got things to do.



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jarrod on 30 November 2009
Erik Aston said:
jarrod said:
Erik Aston said:
jarrod said:
Since multiplatform games seemed to be combined, why aren't Animal Crossing and Big Brain Academy on DS/Wii? They're actually the same games...


Both of those were very much marketed and released as being different games, with different names. The fact that Nintendo did not focus on creating new content for the Wii versions is unfortunate, but I'm not going to list them as the same game.

I'd say that's a slippery slope... if that's the standard, then stuff like Modern Warfare Reflex or Winning Eleven Playmaker really needs to be separated out too.  And really DS/Wii versions of most "multiplatfom" games... I mean there's a far bigger disparity and difference in content between the DS, Wii. PSP and PS360 versions of Madden, WWE, FIFA, NFS or PES annually than there is in the DS/Wii versions of Animal Crossing or Big Brain Academy.


Same name, same game is the rule. It's about marketing and branding, NOT about actual game content, which I'm not going to bother dissecting.

The exceptions I've made to that are All-Play branded games and Modern Warfare Reflex, which are purpose brands or something similar. It is basically as if they called the game "Madden NFL 09 for Wii", as an example.

I have no idea the differences between Winning Eleven and PES, or what Playmaker is, but if it shows up under my VGC database search for Pro Evo and looks like the same thing, I am counting it, and if not, I'm not.

And that's that. If you want to nitpick, go ahead and make your own thread. Basically if I'm pushed to defend my methods, I'm just not going to bother with the thread at all. I've got things to do.

Well, for consistency's sake, not making "exceptions" would likely work best.  If you're not wanting to invite criticism, it'd be best to not break your own rules.  Your little huff at the end there could've been handled better too, nothing's going to encourage nitpicking on the internet like a tantrum/ultimatum.

Winning Eleven is the Japanese title for PES.  The DS and Wii versions are branded differently in Japan (DS = DS, Wii = Playmaker) due to differing input methodolgies/content, while in the west they're branded consistently (ie: they're all just PES) like other content divergent annual sports games (Madden, FIFA, 2K, etc).

 



mike_intellivision on 30 November 2009

Very good thread. Shows the true direction of gaming -- which may not want to be where a lot of people want it to go.

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Khuutra on 16 December 2009

Going to be interesting to see how fast New Super Mario Bros. Wii will climb.